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#21 Hiddenstalke

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Posted 28 April 2013 - 02:52 PM

This was actually one of the funniest arenas i've seen (atleast in MoP). I just love that he shows tons of weird stuff instead of playing as all other hunters(using wyrven sting and aoe slow trap all time instead of ever trapping). Was just epic.
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#22 ernest

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Posted 28 April 2013 - 06:35 PM

View PostNickyEU, on 28 April 2013 - 01:21 PM, said:

You are so fucking cute I could just pick you up and eat you.

:P
Hunters, least represented for 4 seasons.  Average for one.  Here comes the 5th at the bottom, and we're worse than ever.

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#23 Kettu

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Posted 28 April 2013 - 08:50 PM

View Posternest, on 28 April 2013 - 12:35 AM, said:

he ironically walks right past orbs he could have easily picked up for an easy 50k to prevent him from dropping to 500 hp like he did seconds later.

just wanted to point that out.
Thanks for pointing this out. However, I would've gotten kill shotted - and died - if I went for the other orbs.

View Posternest, on 28 April 2013 - 12:35 AM, said:

also when you're survival, you are constantly using arcane shot instead of explosive. which is basically a waste of focus especially when you have fervor instead of thrill of the hunt.
Quite sure I am constantly using multishot instead of those 2. Besides, you are wrong.

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Without CDs:

Arcane shot (20 focus): 31374 dmg
Explo shot   (25 focus): 3x 12739 dmg = 38217 dmg

If I spent 100 focus on both:

Arcane shot x5: 156870 dmg
Explo shot x4: 152868 dmg

As you can see, they do about the same amount of damage per focus. Therefore, arcane shot is not a waste of focus.

I recommend you to read through my advanced survival guide, which can be found on 7:05 - 7:10 of the movie : )

#24 ernest

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Posted 28 April 2013 - 09:09 PM

4:03
You pop deterrence after scattering the healer. Accidentally pick up one of the orbs.
Walk within INCHES of the other two orbs, then come out into line of sight of the hunter with less than 5% health. There was nothing stopping you from grabbing the orbs and you even came came out into line of sight of the hunter which is what you claimed to be avoiding in the first place.

7:40, 8:49, 9:20, 9:26

several instances where you used arcane shot instead of explosive shot.

9:14 through 9:56

explosive shot remains unused for an entire 40 seconds until you get a lock and load proc and use it for the first time.

and most of the time you were single dpsing

Edited by ernest, 28 April 2013 - 09:18 PM.

Hunters, least represented for 4 seasons.  Average for one.  Here comes the 5th at the bottom, and we're worse than ever.

Blizz sure learns fast.

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#25 Kettu

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Posted 28 April 2013 - 09:49 PM

View Posternest, on 28 April 2013 - 09:09 PM, said:

7:40, 8:49, 9:20, 9:26

several instances where you used arcane shot instead of explosive shot.

9:14 through 9:56

explosive shot remains unused for an entire 40 seconds until you get a lock and load proc and use it for the first time.

and most of the time you were single dpsing
So you are still claiming that arcane shot is a waste of focus - after I showed you the simple math which clearly proves that you are wrong?

#26 ernest

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Posted 28 April 2013 - 10:04 PM

View PostKettu, on 28 April 2013 - 09:49 PM, said:

So you are still claiming that arcane shot is a waste of focus - after I showed you the simple math which clearly proves that you are wrong?

it is stupid to ever use arcane shot before explosive shot. yes that's what i'm saying. also that very tiny screen shot of a combat log is not an accurate sample of explosive shot/arcane shot damage.

you forget that you can use explosive shot and then arcane shot while Explosive shot is ticking.

Edited by ernest, 28 April 2013 - 10:17 PM.

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#27 Kettu

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Posted 28 April 2013 - 11:00 PM

View Posternest, on 28 April 2013 - 10:04 PM, said:

you can use explosive shot and then arcane shot while Explosive shot is ticking.
You can also use arcane shot first and explosive shot after.

View Posternest, on 25 April 2013 - 09:52 PM, said:

I might as well be posting on the wow forums with all the 1300 backpedalers.
Indeed.

#28 ernest

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Posted 28 April 2013 - 11:07 PM

View PostKettu, on 28 April 2013 - 11:00 PM, said:

You can also use arcane shot first and explosive shot after.

if you were to do that... your burst would be much less....

i'm sorry am i missing something?

is kettux not all there?
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#29 Kettu

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Posted 29 April 2013 - 10:10 AM

View Posternest, on 28 April 2013 - 11:07 PM, said:

Hunters, least represented for 4 seasons.  Average for one.  Here comes the 5th at the bottom, and we're worse than ever.
Nice signature.

View Posternest, on 28 April 2013 - 11:07 PM, said:

if you were to do that... your burst would be much less....
If I had a 1 second burst window (2 GCDs), I wouldn't use explosive shot at all.

Explosive shot -> Arcane shot = 12.7k + 31k + 12.7k = 56.4k dmg
Arcane shot -> Arcane shot = 31k + 31k = 62k dmg

62k dmg > 56.4k dmg. Simple.

You claimed that arcane shot is a waste of focus. However, arcane shot and explosive shot both do almost the same amount of damage per focus. Therefore it is irrelevant in which order you use those 2 spells from a sustained damage point of view, assuming you don't have infinite focus.

View Posternest, on 28 April 2013 - 11:07 PM, said:

i'm sorry am i missing something?
Judging by the lack of capital letter usage, you're missing an elementary school degree.

#30 robztr

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Posted 29 April 2013 - 10:16 AM

Ernestx, time to step aside and feel your defeat. Bow to your overlord and know your place.

#31 Deadsoil

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Posted 29 April 2013 - 10:48 AM

View PostFeliclandelo, on 28 April 2013 - 12:35 AM, said:

You never stopped to think for a second that he clicks just to annoy people? Or do you think most clickers run around throwing out triple CC and disengages around pillars?
You act like that is even hard to do as a hunter.
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Posted 29 April 2013 - 12:15 PM

survival looks hella fun




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