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#1 Eazymothafukne

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Posted 21 April 2013 - 09:13 AM

Anyone know if they are even playable even on ptr? feels like any team with cc or a spell cleave just insta lose as a hpala.

I'd like to see maybe sac undispellable  or increase healing.. 200k riptide as a rshaman.. 60k flash of light as hpala :(
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Posted 21 April 2013 - 09:36 AM

View PostEazymothafukne, on 21 April 2013 - 09:13 AM, said:

200k riptide as a rshaman.

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#3 Eazymothafukne

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Posted 21 April 2013 - 09:40 AM

Watch cdews stream lower health target is more healing done (mastery) happens alot.
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Posted 21 April 2013 - 09:47 AM

View PostEazymothafukne, on 21 April 2013 - 09:40 AM, said:

Watch cdews stream lower health target is more healing done (mastery) happens alot.
Ah ok then, i don't watch streams or play that much  3s anymore so i never see what shamans heal but 200k sounds extreme that's all.
This is going to sound a little strange but i feel like the main reason paladin sucks atm is because warriors/cleaves suck also. Most paladin comps involve a warrior (KFC/Kitty/Turbo/TSG). I know paladins do a little less healing but i don't think they are super super shitty unless they are put up agaist i mage i just think they have 0 comps to play at the moment because a druid/shaman is 10x better for godcomp. Come 5.3 with warrior buffs i'm pretty sure paladins will make a return with cleaves becoming viable again/

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Posted 21 April 2013 - 10:34 AM

View PostEazymothafukne, on 21 April 2013 - 09:13 AM, said:

Anyone know if they are even playable even on ptr? feels like any team with cc or a spell cleave just insta lose as a hpala.

I'd like to see maybe sac undispellable  or increase healing.. 200k riptide as a rshaman.. 60k flash of light as hpala :(

noo... that is a healing surge. trust me.

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Posted 21 April 2013 - 11:25 AM

Worse then live, warlocks making a comeback is a nerf to paladins

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Posted 21 April 2013 - 05:48 PM

undispellable sac is a very very very bad idea :)

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Posted 21 April 2013 - 06:12 PM

http://www.wowhead.com/spell=44572 -----> Palas
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Posted 21 April 2013 - 06:23 PM

View PostOmglockzorx, on 21 April 2013 - 05:48 PM, said:

undispellable sac is a very very very bad idea :)
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Posted 21 April 2013 - 06:31 PM

View PostOmglockzorx, on 21 April 2013 - 05:48 PM, said:

undispellable sac is a very very very bad idea :)

some dispel protection is a good idea

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Posted 21 April 2013 - 07:16 PM

rofl that you thought riptide could actually crit for 200k

jesus christ

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Posted 21 April 2013 - 07:59 PM

I'd just like to say that on my Shaman in honor gear, hits for 300k+ healing surge crits on targets with 100% hp, my Paladin crits for 112k on a Flash of Light. No problem guys right?

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Posted 21 April 2013 - 08:37 PM

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my Paladin crits for 112k on a Flash of Light

Mine crits 140k, plus i get a free WoG or eternal flame out of it.

Your comparing a shaman using Unleash into healing surge to a paladin using flash... At least attempt to sound less bias and do it properly. The shaman will riptide, unleash, healing surge. thats what. 350k healing if surge crits?

The paladin can Flash, holy shock, WoG and prism. if non of them crit/i haven't used a cooldown to increase them and i don't get multiple divine purpose procs i still do 260k's worth of healing.

Seems rather similar to me tbh.

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Posted 21 April 2013 - 08:43 PM

View PostKorzul, on 21 April 2013 - 08:37 PM, said:

Mine crits 140k, plus i get a free WoG or eternal flame out of it.

Your comparing a shaman using Unleash into healing surge to a paladin using flash... At least attempt to sound less bias and do it properly. The shaman will riptide, unleash, healing surge. thats what. 350k healing if surge crits?

The paladin can Flash, holy shock, WoG and prism. if non of them crit/i haven't used a cooldown to increase them and i don't get multiple divine purpose procs i still do 260k's worth of healing.

Seems rather similar to me tbh.
You can't  compare shaman healing to Paladin, lets be real, all the hots you guys have + the burst healing is more than Paladin in every way.

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Posted 21 April 2013 - 08:44 PM

View PostKorzul, on 21 April 2013 - 08:37 PM, said:

Mine crits 140k, plus i get a free WoG or eternal flame out of it.

Your comparing a shaman using Unleash into healing surge to a paladin using flash... At least attempt to sound less bias and do it properly. The shaman will riptide, unleash, healing surge. thats what. 350k healing if surge crits?

The paladin can Flash, holy shock, WoG and prism. if non of them crit/i haven't used a cooldown to increase them and i don't get multiple divine purpose procs i still do 260k's worth of healing.

Seems rather similar to me tbh.
This... the major factor in arena between the 2 is the shamans versatility against casters.



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View Postdiglett23, on 21 April 2013 - 08:43 PM, said:

You can't  compare shaman healing to Paladin, lets be real, all the hots you guys have + the burst healing is more than Paladin in every way.
All 1.5 hots basically(earthliving isnt much).

Edited by Celaurthor, 21 April 2013 - 08:45 PM.


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Posted 21 April 2013 - 08:46 PM

Could consider healing stream to be some sort of smart hot.

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Posted 21 April 2013 - 09:00 PM

View PostKorzul, on 21 April 2013 - 08:37 PM, said:

260k

View PostKorzul, on 21 April 2013 - 08:37 PM, said:

350k

where is it similar

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Posted 21 April 2013 - 09:15 PM

Because the paladin number was WITHOUT crits and the shaman number entirely relied on surge critting...

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Posted 21 April 2013 - 09:20 PM

The paladin used 4 globals and the shaman 3, remove prism and its similar

And

http://i.imgur.com/gsiwPHf.jpg is how much my flash heals for with BiS gear outside arenas, not 140k. I peak at 141k with wings & jade spirit

Edited by Mirionx, 21 April 2013 - 09:24 PM.


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Posted 21 April 2013 - 10:24 PM

why did this turn into a paladin vs shaman thread, everyone knows that paladins are dogshit and shamans are not.




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