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#1 ImSoAesthetic

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Posted 20 April 2013 - 10:08 PM

I think tremor totem is a really poor designed spell, having an instant anti fear make shamans more useful than other healers.
They have a ground, they can kick at distance, it's really enough.

As a disc, it's pretty hard (to not say impossible) to fear a proper shaman and even if i got the fear, he will ALWAYS have is tremor ready ~_~

I don't say the spell should be deleted, but blizz devs should take a look about it and change how it works.

Increase the CD ?
Make tremor totem a passive spell reducing slightly fear duration ?
Make tremor usable only 3 times in arena ?

I don't have that much ideas but what i think, is that actual tremor totem should be reviewed.

#2 Breez

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Posted 20 April 2013 - 10:10 PM

They have to remove that restoration talent, or take tremor out of it, thats all lol.

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Posted 20 April 2013 - 10:26 PM

AoE 30s will is perfectly fine geeeyz
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Posted 20 April 2013 - 10:33 PM

Imo take tremor totem and player-based fear breaks (berserker rage, lichborne, etc.) out of the game.  Bring fear back to a hard-casted ability, with maybe a couple classes having an emergency instant aoe fear on a long cooldown.

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Posted 20 April 2013 - 10:38 PM

View PostWelgard, on 20 April 2013 - 10:33 PM, said:

Imo take tremor totem and player-based fear breaks (berserker rage, lichborne, etc.) out of the game.  Bring fear back to a hard-casted ability, with maybe a couple classes having an emergency instant aoe fear on a long cooldown.

gonna make warlocks godmod tbh, i think tremor just need a small ajustement as resto, the cd should be increased because it's hard to fear a shaman who stick his pillar 24/24 and when you are finally able to fear, his tremor is up ... this is frustrating sometimes

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Posted 20 April 2013 - 10:42 PM

also remove that bullshit 100% run while casting warlock shit and give them something else instead, obnoxious to get feared by a lock who can literally run with u behind pillars while casting it
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Posted 20 April 2013 - 10:44 PM

View PostConviqx, on 20 April 2013 - 10:42 PM, said:

also remove that bullshit 100% run while casting warlock shit and give them something else instead, obnoxious to get feared by a lock who can literally run with u behind pillars while casting it

are you serious ? i can't imagine playing affliction without run while casting in the actual game state.

#8 Braindance

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Posted 20 April 2013 - 10:44 PM

View PostWelgard, on 20 April 2013 - 10:33 PM, said:

Imo take tremor totem and player-based fear breaks (berserker rage, lichborne, etc.) out of the game.  Bring fear back to a hard-casted ability, with maybe a couple classes having an emergency instant aoe fear on a long cooldown.
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#9 Marshmellow

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Posted 20 April 2013 - 11:26 PM

Make Tremor Totem a longer CD and take it off of restoration

and make fears break on damage, sick of losing half my health in a fear, or just stop calling fear fear and call it what it actually is right now "Random Duration Silence/Stun"

#10 Wallirik

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Posted 20 April 2013 - 11:52 PM

pls just make tremor not usable to BREAK fears, and maybe lower the cd a bit to compensate. breaking a triple fear on your team is way too good :(

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Posted 20 April 2013 - 11:55 PM

View PostWallirik, on 20 April 2013 - 11:52 PM, said:

pls just make tremor not usable to BREAK fears, and maybe lower the cd a bit to compensate. breaking a triple fear on your team is way too good :(

gone are the days of pre-tremoring fears

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Posted 21 April 2013 - 12:20 AM

Its not tremor its the talent. 30sec CD should only be if killed (not by player)

Thats what I think.
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Posted 21 April 2013 - 12:50 AM

If you look at the whole dispel system, shaman is by far the best dispeller(decurse, defensive dispel and purge). They don't need tremor, it's an old mechanic back from the days where shamans were bad dispellers. It is unbelievably broken when you play a discipline priest. The enemy team is practically immune to your best spell.If they are going to keep it in game, they can remove it from the totemic restauration and make it a 3 min cd so that people can't brainlessly use tremor because they can't really get feared.PS: They can remove psyfiend too, it's a retarded ability, they can replace it with chakra stun or something like that.

Edited by Djandawg, 21 April 2013 - 12:58 AM.


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Posted 21 April 2013 - 12:54 AM

View PostBraindance, on 20 April 2013 - 10:44 PM, said:

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Why not?  Psychic scream's cooldown was reduced repeatedly because warriors were able to get out of every fear.  Then that screwed over the classes that didn't have a fear break.

While it's fine for classes to be unique and have their own flavor, a class shouldn't be almost completely immune to a type of crowd control.  When there aren't free trinkets to get out of certain kinds of effects, those effects can be toned down and their cooldowns increased.

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Posted 21 April 2013 - 12:56 AM

View PostWelgard, on 21 April 2013 - 12:54 AM, said:

Why not?  Psychic scream's cooldown was reduced repeatedly because warriors were able to get out of every fear.  Then that screwed over the classes that didn't have a fear break.

While it's fine for classes to be unique and have their own flavor, a class shouldn't be almost completely immune to a type of crowd control.  When there aren't free trinkets to get out of certain kinds of effects, those effects can be toned down and their cooldowns increased.
This is why tremor totem is a gross mechanic, a lot of classes have extra trinket , fear break or are undead - will of forsaken, we don't need an aoe ability that breaks it for everyone.
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Posted 21 April 2013 - 01:03 AM

even if tremmor is 1 min cd its still too god.

they need to re work tremmor totem. why do u get a free out of jail card when u get feared??wtf? u already have spirit wolf form cant get slowed in it, u have a grounding, and you have a ranged kick.
u should only be able to pre tremmor imo. 1 min cd pre tremmor sounds fair.

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Posted 21 April 2013 - 01:05 AM

stop being bad and silence/stun/whatever the shaman and then fear?

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Posted 21 April 2013 - 01:07 AM

View PostWelgard, on 21 April 2013 - 12:54 AM, said:

Why not?  Psychic scream's cooldown was reduced repeatedly because warriors were able to get out of every fear.  Then that screwed over the classes that didn't have a fear break.

While it's fine for classes to be unique and have their own flavor, a class shouldn't be almost completely immune to a type of crowd control.  When there aren't free trinkets to get out of certain kinds of effects, those effects can be toned down and their cooldowns increased.
No. And why not? Simply because:

a) Warriors are by far the easiest dps class to control (apart from rets)
b ) Berserk rage is one of the oldest abilities in the game.
c) I cannot recall a single patch where psychic scream's cooldown was adjusted, especially due to brage
d) Warriors are far from being immune to fear nowadays
e) Brage has a duration of 6 seconds now down from 10, whilst, at the same time more fears where introduced in the game (psyfiend)
f) No one ever whined about zeker rage even in BC where landing a fear on a warrior awarded you a feat of strength. Just because tremor is retarded, doesn't mean that zeker rage is retarded as well

Wanna take abilities like this out of the game? Sure. Then remove:

1) AMS
2) IBF
3) Remove blink's component that removes stuns
4) Cloak of shadows
5) Druid shapeshifting
6) Lichborne

Remove the above then remove zeker rage which is the weakest element in this equation.

Edited by Braindance, 21 April 2013 - 01:07 AM.

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Posted 21 April 2013 - 01:23 AM

View PostBraindance, on 21 April 2013 - 01:07 AM, said:

b ) Berserk rage is one of the oldest abilities in the game.
because this is a good reason

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Posted 21 April 2013 - 01:26 AM

View PostHnng, on 21 April 2013 - 01:23 AM, said:

because this is a good reason
Because you are very smart, please refrain from selective reading and read the whole post.

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