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#21 Conviqx

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Posted 20 April 2013 - 08:26 PM

View PostFilthpig, on 20 April 2013 - 05:40 PM, said:

Fear is trash

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fear pathing can win games are u serious
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#22 Wallirik

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Posted 20 April 2013 - 08:34 PM

View PostPersephones, on 20 April 2013 - 06:53 PM, said:

I never understood how people could enjoy destro, I mean, if you want big numbers and nuke people, why not just roll a mage that does it a lot better?
because destro is super fun to play and it's not the same class at all.

#23 Eveny

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Posted 20 April 2013 - 08:40 PM

View PostFilthpig, on 20 April 2013 - 05:40 PM, said:

Fear is trash

yeah buddy...

they should make it dr with stuns since yeh you know
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#24 vomite

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Posted 20 April 2013 - 08:56 PM

Make the 4pc bonus reduce dark soul cd to 1min and maybe its effectiveness to 25%, warlocks wont feel like a walking punchbag for 2minutes, lines up with dance/orb/solar beam and all that kinda stuff

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Posted 20 April 2013 - 10:03 PM

rofl i can't believe people are saying fear is trash rofl.  Not everyone plays with a shaman rofl.

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Posted 20 April 2013 - 10:38 PM

Good stuff please fix the other classes next.

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Posted 20 April 2013 - 10:41 PM

dps having a dispell is dumb i think.

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Posted 20 April 2013 - 10:52 PM

View PostMbgz, on 19 April 2013 - 11:26 AM, said:



warlocks have shitty CC? come on man ._.

Can druids really complain about lock cc?  It just doesn't seem kosher.
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#29 Conradical

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Posted 20 April 2013 - 11:57 PM

RBGs and PvE are super fun as a warlock. I don't enjoy arena on my warlock at all. It just isn't a fun playstyle. Everything seems so straightforward and requires very little thought.

I must:
gateway
press my soul burn + soul swap macro
use the proper CDs when i get low
keep dots up
press port

You don't really have to think "Okay, I need dots on THIS guy at THIS time, so I want to save my Soul Swap for that target in 10 seconds. Good thing I just juked this kick, too, because I wouldn't be able to get DoTs up otherwise".

Edited by Conradical, 20 April 2013 - 11:58 PM.


#30 Filthpig

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Posted 21 April 2013 - 12:07 AM

View Posthairpiece, on 20 April 2013 - 10:03 PM, said:

rofl i can't believe people are saying fear is trash rofl.  Not everyone plays with a shaman rofl.


The people that don't play with shaman play with a priest. Priest fear is more effective than warlock because they can do it twice as often, or drop a turret that spams it for them. Try peeling a TSG or any kind of cleave off your healer with just fear and you'll see just how horrible it really is as a warlock.

#31 Mbgz

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Posted 21 April 2013 - 12:10 AM

View PostViolatrix, on 20 April 2013 - 10:52 PM, said:

Can druids really complain about lock cc?  It just doesn't seem kosher.

where did you hear me complaining ?

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Posted 21 April 2013 - 02:53 AM

View PostFilthpig, on 20 April 2013 - 05:40 PM, said:

Fear is trash, cyclone is the best spammable cc in game. I don't see Clone Ward, Anti-Twister Totem, Cloneborn, Counterclockwise bladestorm to spin the wind back around and negate the clone etc in the game. I don't want s11 status back, I just don't want to do baby dick damage and die when someone gives me a stern look anymore. Sure, if you play perfectly in a select one or two comps you can do okay as a warlock, but they're just free points for viable comps.

Fear is absolutely not trash, regardless of all the counters to it. I'm not going to begin to point out how terribly wrong that argument is. Cyclone is a good spammable cc but I think fear is a little better.

Locks do not do baby dick damage at all, it's very real during demon soul and trinket procs. Outside of the cooldowns, the spread and single damage isn't the best but it's certainly not awful. I'd also argue that MLS is not free points for most viable comps at all. Destro MLS is better according to a few people I've spoken to but I think affliction is very viable. UA covers on deeps/novas/fears are simply amazing.

LSD2 with a pally healer (the koreans), RLS, Shadowplay and DKLS aren't bad either. Not top tier but they're decent comps to run.

View PostFilthpig, on 21 April 2013 - 12:07 AM, said:

The people that don't play with shaman play with a priest. Priest fear is more effective than warlock because they can do it twice as often, or drop a turret that spams it for them. Try peeling a TSG or any kind of cleave off your healer with just fear and you'll see just how horrible it really is as a warlock.

Your post can't be taken seriously. Priest fear on a 27s? cooldown is absolutely not better than a spammable fear along with howl if you choose it. Psyfiend is game-breaking in some situations but most of the time u can banish it.

Peeling a TSG / cleave shadowfury helps a lot, demon soul gate way as well. If you get the gate you should nearly never lose to a cleave. Your partner isn't afk either.

View PostConradical, on 20 April 2013 - 11:57 PM, said:

RBGs and PvE are super fun as a warlock. I don't enjoy arena on my warlock at all. It just isn't a fun playstyle. Everything seems so straightforward and requires very little thought.

I must:
gateway
press my soul burn + soul swap macro
use the proper CDs when i get low
keep dots up
press port

You don't really have to think "Okay, I need dots on THIS guy at THIS time, so I want to save my Soul Swap for that target in 10 seconds. Good thing I just juked this kick, too, because I wouldn't be able to get DoTs up otherwise".

The playstyle compared to cata is a little dull but it's what we have for the rest of the expansion. It really isn't that bad if you look at it with an open mind. You can still do things with the spec to outshine other locks. Draining pets, shadowy apps, mirror images, saving shards for sb:ss + haunt swaps. Fake casting is not as important as it was before since you can get damage out now regardless but it's still a thing.

While I'd prefer the cata playstyle back this isn't bad at all. I still have a lot of fun playing ua even if it's not as good as it once was.

Edited by Poobandit, 21 April 2013 - 03:03 AM.

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Posted 21 April 2013 - 04:59 AM

^ +rep, couldnt agree more

getting really sick of the constant qqing

View PostBraindance, on 22 June 2013 - 07:05 AM, said:

The current season is at a very good spot balance-wise. There is a comp variety that hasn't been seen in the game since s8.

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Posted 22 April 2013 - 11:15 AM

fear is a good cc. fear pathing is BAD (for 8 years now).

playing with an imp is godlike. vs all those hunter teams you can dispel EVERY trap.

play with felhunter vs caster cleaves. play with DISPEL vs huntards.
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Posted 27 April 2013 - 09:48 PM

View PostDkH.ZeRa, on 22 April 2013 - 11:15 AM, said:

fear is a good cc. fear pathing is BAD (for 8 years now).

playing with an imp is godlike. vs all those hunter teams you can dispel EVERY trap.

play with felhunter vs caster cleaves. play with DISPEL vs huntards.

Playing with an imp is godlike until the hunter realizes he can put a mark to cover his traps
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Posted 27 April 2013 - 10:25 PM

View PostThugonomics8, on 27 April 2013 - 09:48 PM, said:

Playing with an imp is godlike until the hunter realizes he can put a mark to cover his traps

If he doesn't want to attack during the trap, sure.

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