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#1 McMick1137

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Posted 19 April 2013 - 09:51 AM

Revert Devour Magic to WotLK state letting it dispell a party member for 1(or was it 2?) magic effects.

There, your class gets utility to make up for shitty cc/damage.
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Posted 19 April 2013 - 09:54 AM

Hey here's an idea: Don't post bad ideas.

#3 McMick1137

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Posted 19 April 2013 - 09:55 AM

Do tell me why it's a bad idea? If locks had the old Devour back they wouldnt have to pop every cd first cc their healer gets :P

Edited by McMick1137, 19 April 2013 - 09:56 AM.

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Posted 19 April 2013 - 09:57 AM

Or you could just use an imp

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Posted 19 April 2013 - 09:59 AM

View PostDreamex, on 19 April 2013 - 09:57 AM, said:

Or you could just use an imp

That's the problem though, as soon as you bring out the Imp you penalize yourself massively by not having Spell Lock.
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Posted 19 April 2013 - 10:03 AM

View PostMcMick1137, on 19 April 2013 - 09:55 AM, said:

Do tell me why it's a bad idea? If locks had the old Devour back they wouldnt have to pop every cd first cc their healer gets :P

If locks had a defensive dispel how would that solve our damage problems and survivability issues? We'd have a little more utility sure.. but the underlying problems are the former.

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Posted 19 April 2013 - 10:40 AM

DPS class cant have dispel since healer have an cd on it

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Posted 19 April 2013 - 11:00 AM

@Mvpz, what? It'll change everything seeing as you wont just be fucked and have to play the lottery whenever your healer has to sit cc.

@Skizy, SPs sup?
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Posted 19 April 2013 - 11:26 AM

View PostMcMick1137, on 19 April 2013 - 09:51 AM, said:

Revert Devour Magic to WotLK state letting it dispell a party member for 1(or was it 2?) magic effects.

There, your class gets utility to make up for shitty cc

warlocks have shitty CC? come on man ._.

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Posted 19 April 2013 - 11:27 AM

View PostMbgz, on 19 April 2013 - 11:26 AM, said:

warlocks have shitty CC? come on man ._.

They do as long as tremor is in the game and they got nerfed on their CC compared to cata

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Posted 19 April 2013 - 11:31 AM

View PostMirionx, on 19 April 2013 - 11:27 AM, said:

They do as long as tremor is in the game and they got nerfed on their CC compared to cata

you bring up a valid point, but it also seems to be blizzards mistake in wow, they overbuff everything to match something that is broken, in this case it is tremor totem.

imagine if every warlock team could dispell their healer from CC with devour, then they had to buff damage to score kills without cc used at all?

Fix what is broken, instead of buffing everything to match the result of something broken.

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Posted 19 April 2013 - 11:48 AM

What is broken is that Warlocks only really have a fear (which is pretty shit compared to easy it is for other classes to get their cc off) and kick, in the present game most classes have tons of cc, especially casters. I dont get your point about fixing whats broken instead of buffing other things in its place. If you keep "fixing whats broken" and aligning classes with eachother they wont differ at all. Instead of making yet another dmg god how about compensating a class in another way rather thanjust buffing damage?

And im 100% serious about locks having shit cc. No one ever goes "oh shit it's a lock im gonna sit cc all game", not that I see that as a problem, I just think they should be compensated in another way.
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Posted 20 April 2013 - 04:58 PM

View PostMcMick1137, on 19 April 2013 - 11:48 AM, said:

What is broken is that Warlocks only really have a fear (which is pretty shit compared to easy it is for other classes to get their cc off) and kick, in the present game most classes have tons of cc, especially casters. I dont get your point about fixing whats broken instead of buffing other things in its place. If you keep "fixing whats broken" and aligning classes with eachother they wont differ at all. Instead of making yet another dmg god how about compensating a class in another way rather thanjust buffing damage?

And im 100% serious about locks having shit cc. No one ever goes "oh shit it's a lock im gonna sit cc all game", not that I see that as a problem, I just think they should be compensated in another way.

not sure if serious... locks have the best spammable cc in the game - especially with UA cover / 8s dispel.

on a side note, why does everyone complain that locks are 'unviable'? locks are not bad at all right now, the 10% dmg buff should have us pretty well off. of course it might not be enough but it seems like everyone wants locks to be at s11 level again which was too strong.
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Posted 20 April 2013 - 05:40 PM

View PostPoobandit, on 20 April 2013 - 04:58 PM, said:

not sure if serious... locks have the best spammable cc in the game - especially with UA cover / 8s dispel.

on a side note, why does everyone complain that locks are 'unviable'? locks are not bad at all right now, the 10% dmg buff should have us pretty well off. of course it might not be enough but it seems like everyone wants locks to be at s11 level again which was too strong.


Fear is trash, cyclone is the best spammable cc in game. I don't see Clone Ward, Anti-Twister Totem, Cloneborn, Counterclockwise bladestorm to spin the wind back around and negate the clone etc in the game. I don't want s11 status back, I just don't want to do baby dick damage and die when someone gives me a stern look anymore. Sure, if you play perfectly in a select one or two comps you can do okay as a warlock, but they're just free points for viable comps.

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Posted 20 April 2013 - 05:47 PM

Which CC is super subjective and also depends on the situation. Cyclone can't be used offensively the same way that Fear can be (spam fearing a healer while a dk rapes the target is pretty gud)

If the set bonus was raised to 20%, I'd argue that we'd be in a really good position

View PostBraindance, on 22 June 2013 - 07:05 AM, said:

The current season is at a very good spot balance-wise. There is a comp variety that hasn't been seen in the game since s8.

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Posted 20 April 2013 - 06:25 PM

destro is decent atm, but affliction is straight up not even fun to play. even with the 10% buff to dot damage, i don't know if i would even enjoy that playstyle.

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Posted 20 April 2013 - 06:53 PM

I never understood how people could enjoy destro, I mean, if you want big numbers and nuke people, why not just roll a mage that does it a lot better?

View PostBraindance, on 22 June 2013 - 07:05 AM, said:

The current season is at a very good spot balance-wise. There is a comp variety that hasn't been seen in the game since s8.

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Posted 20 April 2013 - 07:34 PM

I know I'm going to get flamed for saying this but, when you pair Aff Dark Soul with any other classes main cooldowns it is actually the craziest multi target damage I have ever seen, especially with an unholy DK it is like fighting a raid boss

Even by itself dark soul damage is pretty crazy

Edited by Marshmellow, 20 April 2013 - 07:37 PM.


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Posted 20 April 2013 - 07:53 PM

View PostFilthpig, on 19 April 2013 - 09:54 AM, said:

Hey here's an idea: Don't post bad ideas.

dont post ideas about bad ideas ,plz

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Posted 20 April 2013 - 08:03 PM

View PostFilthpig, on 20 April 2013 - 05:40 PM, said:

Fear is trash, cyclone is the best spammable cc in game. I don't see Clone Ward, Anti-Twister Totem, Cloneborn, Counterclockwise bladestorm to spin the wind back around and negate the clone etc in the game. I don't want s11 status back, I just don't want to do baby dick damage and die when someone gives me a stern look anymore. Sure, if you play perfectly in a select one or two comps you can do okay as a warlock, but they're just free points for viable comps.
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