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#21 Korzul

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Posted 18 April 2013 - 02:31 PM

4400 agil for 40 secs on a 110 sec icd from shadowpan vs 3954 agil (4066 in 5.3 given 496 ilevel) for 20 secs on a 45 sec icd from pvp proc trinket. That's not taking into account the pvp power you're swapping for hit.

They're quite close in effectiveness now and whilst the increased duration may help to some of the derpier styles ("hey lets rapid fire the opener then readiness rapid fire as soon as it runs out!"), i'd rather have them this way than with the increased stats.

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Posted 18 April 2013 - 04:37 PM

View PostKorzul, on 18 April 2013 - 02:31 PM, said:

4400 agil for 40 secs on a 110 sec icd from shadowpan vs 3954 agil (4066 in 5.3 given 496 ilevel) for 20 secs on a 45 sec icd from pvp proc trinket. That's not taking into account the pvp power you're swapping for hit.

They're quite close in effectiveness now and whilst the increased duration may help to some of the derpier styles ("hey lets rapid fire the opener then readiness rapid fire as soon as it runs out!"), i'd rather have them this way than with the increased stats.
Very true, also dont forget the ~350 res.

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Posted 18 April 2013 - 05:09 PM

its mostly a problem with humans, hunters and rogues for example can use the shado pan trinket the random proc pvp trinket and the engineering on use gloves

2k agi from gloves 4400 from shado and 3950 from pvp proc   = insane stacking
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#24 Ruddx

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Posted 18 April 2013 - 05:47 PM

Can't they just make any sort of PvE Gear fucking not useable in Arena... always stupid Items like these ruining the game... so tired of this stupid shit.

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Posted 18 April 2013 - 05:57 PM

Game been out more than 8 years, still no "Can't use this item inside PvP zones" or "You can't queue for arena when u have x equipped"
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#26 Marshmellow

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Posted 18 April 2013 - 05:58 PM

View PostRuddx, on 18 April 2013 - 05:47 PM, said:

Can't they just make any sort of PvE Gear fucking not useable in Arena... always stupid Items like these ruining the game... so tired of this stupid shit.

They want Hardcore PVE'rs to be able to hop into pvp whenever they want with minimal pvp gear.
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#27 Ruddx

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Posted 18 April 2013 - 05:59 PM

Everyone using this shit in Arena disgusts me, I actually developed a serious hate on people using it...

Edited by Ruddx, 18 April 2013 - 06:02 PM.


#28 Marshmellow

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Posted 18 April 2013 - 06:05 PM

View PostRuddx, on 18 April 2013 - 05:59 PM, said:

Everyone using this shit in Arena disgusts me, I actually developed a serious hate on people using it...

I agree, people just need to play the game instead of using dumb things like these trinkets to get ahead in stupidly over powered comps
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#29 wtfbro

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Posted 18 April 2013 - 06:24 PM

View PostRuddx, on 18 April 2013 - 05:59 PM, said:

Everyone using this shit in Arena disgusts me, I actually developed a serious hate on people using it...
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#30 Ruddx

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Posted 18 April 2013 - 06:33 PM

I tried it once in 2s and I felt like an idiot using my CD's according to a trinket procc. So I prefered not to use it anymore.
This dumb shit benefits mongoloids spastics running in like idiot trying to oneshot stuff through all Deff-Cds in an openerer.

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Posted 18 April 2013 - 06:39 PM

now that it lasts 40 secs you dont need to really plan anything around it as it will most likely be up lmao
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#32 Edhris

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Posted 18 April 2013 - 06:39 PM

someone just got owned....

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Posted 18 April 2013 - 06:41 PM

40sec is jst stupid!, 20sec wasnt enough rly how ealse imma get my duelist title.

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#34 Ruddx

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Posted 18 April 2013 - 06:41 PM

wait 40 seconds?

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Posted 18 April 2013 - 06:46 PM

bring the trinket, not the player!

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Posted 18 April 2013 - 07:52 PM

View PostRuddx, on 18 April 2013 - 06:41 PM, said:

wait 40 seconds?

ya in NA servers it lasts 40 secs and procs for 4400 agi
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Posted 23 April 2013 - 10:50 PM

View PostMarshmellow, on 18 April 2013 - 05:58 PM, said:

They want Hardcore PVE'rs to be able to hop into pvp whenever they want with minimal pvp gear.

Doesn't go the other way of course. Can't have hardcore PVPers getting even a single item that's useful in PVE!
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Posted 23 April 2013 - 11:44 PM

View Postfant0m8, on 23 April 2013 - 10:50 PM, said:

Doesn't go the other way of course. Can't have hardcore PVPers getting even a single item that's useful in PVE!
probably because hardcore pvers get heroic gear, while hardcore pvpers (lol) get exactly the same gear as mr i play 2s 10 games a week for cap pvper

then again, it probably wasnt the most educated idea to make trinkets, historically the most overpowered pve item in pvp, available first from the rep vendor, when they could just have easily have made them the last item you can get :(

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My personal opinion about why PHD/ATC/Beastcleave are not being that succesful on Tournaments is that in many cases it relies on the enemy making an error...In a sense, that makes them the underdog...Hunter's have never really been that OP. People just have the image that hunters should be something to be stomped over




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