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#1 Salutations

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Posted 17 April 2013 - 11:41 PM

Item - Warlock PvP Set 4P Bonus (New) Increases damage done by your Agony, Corruption, Doom, Immolate, and Unstable Affliction by 10%.

Edited by Salutations, 18 April 2013 - 12:09 AM.


#2 Dreamex

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Posted 18 April 2013 - 12:17 AM

10% buff to all dots cancels out the 25% hotfix nerf to corruption at the start of 5.2, so affliction damage will be the same as in 5.1, aka still awful.

Edited by Dreamex, 18 April 2013 - 12:18 AM.


#3 Salutations

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Posted 18 April 2013 - 12:20 AM

yeah but shadowpriest and bm are nerfed, i think we will have some utility now even if our damage aren't that great, we will see.

Edited by Salutations, 18 April 2013 - 12:20 AM.


#4 majorblood

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Posted 18 April 2013 - 12:20 AM

View PostDreamex, on 18 April 2013 - 12:17 AM, said:

10% buff to all dots cancels out the 25% hotfix nerf to corruption at the start of 5.2, so affliction damage will be the same as in 5.1, aka still awful.
and our survivability is also worse if we lose the unending resolve -20seconds. not tremendously worse but it's noticeable.

#5 Nadagast

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Posted 18 April 2013 - 12:51 AM

I have to say I think a 10% damage buff will not be enough for Aff.

Edited by Nadagast, 18 April 2013 - 03:24 AM.


#6 Marshmellow

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Posted 18 April 2013 - 01:10 AM

Why don't they give aff procced insta Shadow Bolts back?
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Posted 18 April 2013 - 01:43 AM

I really miss the old afflic with instant shadowbolts n shit. I feel afflic needs some type of love.

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#8 Breez

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Posted 18 April 2013 - 01:46 AM

So they basically gave us back the amount they nerfed with corruption before. lol?

#9 Limity

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Posted 18 April 2013 - 03:46 AM

corruption needs to be like +35% =(

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Posted 18 April 2013 - 03:57 AM

View PostBreez, on 18 April 2013 - 01:46 AM, said:

So they basically gave us back the amount they nerfed with corruption before. lol?

Shhh! They're hoping you lack a memory thus are extremely grateful with a once in a blue moon buff... /bow blizz *grovels away*

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Posted 18 April 2013 - 06:18 AM

Sorry but this is no where near enough. 10% more on dots that are ticking for 4k is meaningless. If afflic is going to do well or stand a chance at competing vs other top tier comps, it needs to have the best 3 target pressure in the game.

The set bonus needs to make SB:SS dots do 75% less dmg and increase all dots by no less than 50%. Yes at least 50%. The dots now tick for absurdly low amounts. I would also go on to say that the set bonus should make haunt not cost shards but gives it a cooldown.

edit: i am thankful they are making an attempt, i just hope they realize how much everyone wants afflic to work again. shitty changes like this wont suffice. my fear is they are going to stick with these kinds of changes so they can pull the "we buffed afflic" card even tho its meaningless. i just want to 3v3 again :(

Edited by brosearch, 18 April 2013 - 06:21 AM.


#12 Persephones

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Posted 18 April 2013 - 06:36 AM

50% dot damage increase is absurd man, if you play a comp that already applies heavy aoe pressure, Warlock damage isn't bad at all. Since they aren't gonna revert the -25% corruption nerf they did earlier in the expansion (due to PvE), I'd agree with Nada and say they at least need to buff it to ~20%, to make up for the old Corr nerf plus a little extra.

Gonna try to go more heavy with intellect next patch for sure.

Edited by Persephones, 18 April 2013 - 06:46 AM.

View PostBraindance, on 22 June 2013 - 07:05 AM, said:

The current season is at a very good spot balance-wise. There is a comp variety that hasn't been seen in the game since s8.

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Posted 18 April 2013 - 06:42 AM

View PostPersephones, on 18 April 2013 - 06:36 AM, said:

50% dot damage increase is absurd man, if you play a comp that already applies heavy aoe pressure, Warlock damage isn't bad at all. Since they aren't gonna revert the -25% corruption nerf they did earlier in the expansion (due to PvE), I'd agree with Nada and say they at least need to buff it to ~20%, to make up for the old Corr nerf plus a little extra.

the ratio of dmg done via dots vs HP is 50% of what it was in cata. Was cata dmg OP? absolutely not. im simply suggesting that we return to our pressure back to cata numbers which no body in their right mind ever complained about.

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Posted 18 April 2013 - 06:50 AM

That's not entirely true. It's true that numbers on your screen aren't as big compared to the health pools vs those you got in Cata, but you're most likely forgetting that our dots ticked every 3 seconds compared to every 2 seconds now. We also got MG which makes them tick faster.

View PostBraindance, on 22 June 2013 - 07:05 AM, said:

The current season is at a very good spot balance-wise. There is a comp variety that hasn't been seen in the game since s8.

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Posted 18 April 2013 - 06:55 AM

We would not have sb:ss so we would be casting everything. additionally, MG is not better than cata's single target of felhunter+drain life with haunt and dots. Cata is absolute proof that our dmg was totally fine and it can easily be done in this expansion too.

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Posted 18 April 2013 - 10:26 PM

sometimes i seriously ask myself how it's possible they have not reverted the 25% corruption nerf in pvp yet, it just blows my mind... they've shown they have the ability to change the damage something does in pvp vs pve, so why not revert it? were they actually under the impression aff multi dotting was too good in pvp?

getting fairly sick of playing arena and eating 75k lances/frost fire bolts while my dots tick for 2100.


the entire warlock play style (which was very fun and interesting) was gutted for all 3 specs in mop, and now it's a mediocre class that isn't enjoyable to play.

Edited by elorahnahimi, 18 April 2013 - 10:27 PM.

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#17 Bluckstack

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Posted 18 April 2013 - 11:09 PM

corruption : 35% (10 + the 25% we got nerfed) and 10-15% on ua/agony can be good, 10% its nothing

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Posted 18 April 2013 - 11:25 PM

View Postbrosearch, on 18 April 2013 - 06:55 AM, said:

We would not have sb:ss so we would be casting everything. additionally, MG is not better than cata's single target of felhunter+drain life with haunt and dots. Cata is absolute proof that our dmg was totally fine and it can easily be done in this expansion too.

?

warlock damage in cata was good, what game were you playing?

OT: the change will help but i don't think it'll be enough. am i the only one that thinks having the corr nerf reverted will make lock damage over the top?

Edited by Poobandit, 18 April 2013 - 11:27 PM.

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Posted 19 April 2013 - 12:20 AM

View PostPoobandit, on 18 April 2013 - 11:25 PM, said:

OT: the change will help but i don't think it'll be enough. am i the only one that thinks having the corr nerf reverted will make lock damage over the top?

in the eyes of everyone else, warlocks are worse than unviable, and all dots tick below 2k.

Some people here honestly make it out to be way worse than it actually is.

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Posted 19 April 2013 - 02:12 AM

Love this change, I just hope they nerf mages in any way possible and 5.3 will be looking really promising



wondering one thing tho, if this is the new 4s bonus, does that mean we are losing all magic from the ward?

Edited by Dakkrothy, 19 April 2013 - 02:13 AM.





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