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#1 Conviqx

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Posted 17 April 2013 - 07:48 PM


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  • Shuriken Toss now deals 100% more damage in the initial ranged attack, damage is no longer doubled when used on targets farther than 10 yards away, and energy cost has been increased to 40 energy, up from 20.

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#2 Moosex

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Posted 17 April 2013 - 08:06 PM

Have I had a ride in the Doc's DeLorean recently?

Or is this just 20 years old?
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#3 wtfbro

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Posted 17 April 2013 - 08:13 PM

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#4 Conviqx

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Posted 17 April 2013 - 08:23 PM

Don't think anyone posted that it actually doesn't do 60k etc with the change marked with red but instead does normal dmg
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#5 Marshmellow

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Posted 17 April 2013 - 09:54 PM

View PostConviqx, on 17 April 2013 - 08:23 PM, said:

Don't think anyone posted that it actually doesn't do 60k etc with the change marked with red but instead does normal dmg

should only do auto attack damage imo
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#6 AcerMVP

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Posted 17 April 2013 - 09:56 PM

View PostMarshmellow, on 17 April 2013 - 09:54 PM, said:

should only do auto attack damage imo

Then what's the point of having it in the talent tree?

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Posted 17 April 2013 - 10:53 PM

100k crits wat

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Posted 17 April 2013 - 11:18 PM

remove rogues, and class change all rogues to monks imo.

also something needs to be done about subterfuge and unpeelable cloak and dagger....

Edited by moelol, 17 April 2013 - 11:25 PM.


#9 Enyalius

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Posted 17 April 2013 - 11:22 PM

Or you know, just balance the class. Going a little off-topic, but shuriken toss is the least of my worries about rogues.

Cloak and Dagger sup?

Np, gap closer during cooldown with no cd np np.

Aight back on topic - shuriken toss dmg is dumb, yes. But the only worrying thing is shuriken toss + deadly throw, not shuriken toss only.

Yes I have seen some nasty ST crits on me, but its still not that retarded.

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Posted 17 April 2013 - 11:46 PM

A lot of rogues don't even play with toss, i hate using it myself, the damage it does believe it or not does almost never matter in an actual kill, sure u can keep up some full recups and slices but u will never kill anything with toss, i don't even think it needed a nerf, they just had to give deadly throw a cd

Edited by Conviqx, 17 April 2013 - 11:47 PM.

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Posted 18 April 2013 - 02:24 PM

View Postmoelol, on 17 April 2013 - 11:18 PM, said:

remove rogues, and class change all rogues to monks imo.

also something needs to be done about subterfuge and unpeelable cloak and dagger....

You can peel cloak and dagger, doesn't work when the rogue is rooted. On 5.2 ptr you could use it when rooted...

#12 Njsx

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Posted 18 April 2013 - 08:50 PM

View Postmoelol, on 17 April 2013 - 11:18 PM, said:

remove rogues, and class change all rogues to monks imo.

also something needs to be done about subterfuge and unpeelable cloak and dagger....

Er, every CC works?

#13 Hackattack3

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Posted 18 April 2013 - 09:30 PM

View PostConviqx, on 17 April 2013 - 11:46 PM, said:

A lot of rogues don't even play with toss, i hate using it myself, the damage it does believe it or not does almost never matter in an actual kill, sure u can keep up some full recups and slices but u will never kill anything with toss, i don't even think it needed a nerf, they just had to give deadly throw a cd

Although toss isn't that game breaking in 3s, it's absurd in 2s.  I know lol 2s but I wish it was more balanced and people took it more seriously.  I don't always have the time get skype/vent going and small talk to play 3s, sometimes I just want a quick and dirty 2s cap.

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Posted 18 April 2013 - 09:41 PM

View PostOhhiimMvp, on 17 April 2013 - 09:56 PM, said:

Then what's the point of having it in the talent tree?

If you want to play hunter, you fucking reroll hunter.

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Posted 18 April 2013 - 10:22 PM

from rogue point of view, i dont care if it does 0 dmg,  i just spam it for combo points.

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Posted 18 April 2013 - 11:02 PM

View PostOhhiimMvp, on 17 April 2013 - 09:56 PM, said:

Then what's the point of having it in the talent tree?

So rogues can have some consistent damage while being kited? not crit for 40-50k and then another 60k hit that interrupts casting for 6 seconds, play a mage or a hunter if you want that much ranged damage

Edited by Marshmellow, 18 April 2013 - 11:27 PM.

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Posted 18 April 2013 - 11:39 PM

View PostConviqx, on 17 April 2013 - 11:46 PM, said:

A lot of rogues don't even play with toss, i hate using it myself, the damage it does believe it or not does almost never matter in an actual kill, sure u can keep up some full recups and slices but u will never kill anything with toss, i don't even think it needed a nerf, they just had to give deadly throw a cd

or you can just play thugcleave and kill people in the opener, maybe that's why you don't feel like ST is worth it

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Posted 19 April 2013 - 04:35 AM

View PostMarshmellow, on 18 April 2013 - 11:02 PM, said:

So rogues can have some consistent damage while being kited? not crit for 40-50k and then another 60k hit that interrupts casting for 6 seconds, play a mage or a hunter if you want that much ranged damage

Please provide proof that it does this damage consistently before you start trying to reply to me. Maybe you didn't know, but there's something called RNG in the game that was added quite some time ago. RNG means random number generator, meaning that the damage will never stay consistent. Now, back to what I was saying, provide proof that it's consistent 40-60k damage, then we will have the evidence to nerf it. Before you post one screenshot, I'm looking for more than ten screen shots within around the hour since you say the damage is that consistent, you should be able to provide them.

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Posted 19 April 2013 - 11:22 AM

Hmm, no evidence.

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Posted 03 May 2013 - 08:09 AM

The only reason I think shuriken toss should be removed is because I miss standing a chance against rogues in a duel. :(











^joke, in case it wasn't obvious

Edited by fant0m8, 03 May 2013 - 08:09 AM.

Bye again! This game isn't fun when you don't know anyone else that still plays.




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