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#1 Deadscumlord

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Posted 17 April 2013 - 01:31 PM

Anyone else Feel that this ability has ruined what made Mages great vs Rogues. Being able to almost always garrote, cheap shot someone to avoid the blink is so ignorant. And even when i out play a rogue now and knock him outta stealth he just lawls and cloaks and daggers 2 me b4 subterfuge is gone.  its just a low skill cap ability to the core.


This post may have been a mistake. i made a new thread to promote what i think is the true problem of the game rather than singling out an ability.

http://www.arenajunk...-cap-abilities/

much better discussions to be had here.

Edited by Christymarie, 13 May 2013 - 06:44 AM.


#2 Conviqx

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Posted 17 April 2013 - 01:38 PM

Blazing speed + blink 'nough said
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Posted 17 April 2013 - 01:42 PM

View PostConviqx, on 17 April 2013 - 01:38 PM, said:

Blazing speed + blink 'nough said

who plays with blazing speed rofl

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Posted 17 April 2013 - 02:01 PM

View PostChristymarie, on 17 April 2013 - 01:31 PM, said:

Anyone else Feel hat this ability has ruined what made Mages great vs Rogues. Being able to almost always garrote, cheap shot someone to avoid the blink is so ignorant. And even when i out play a rogue now and knock him outta stealth he just lawls and cloaks and daggers 2 me b4 subterfuge is gone.  its just a low skill cap ability to the core.

i do understand what your trying to say and i do agree, but however this is blizzard, they love those wierd good looking basic abilities, that simplifies the game,

example: i got knocked out of stealth, ok i got 4more seconds before he can see me to get my opener! (yay) and the mage is like, ok im in combat, just gota wait 4sec (yay)...

blizzard like those things...

#5 Execx

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Posted 17 April 2013 - 02:15 PM

View PostConviqx, on 17 April 2013 - 01:38 PM, said:

Blazing speed + blink 'nough said

Jk at 25% hp before I can use either. You make yourself look dumber each time you post.

#6 Deadscumlord

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Posted 17 April 2013 - 02:15 PM

View PostExecx, on 17 April 2013 - 02:15 PM, said:

Jk at 25% hp before I can use either. You make yourself look dumber each time you post.
  This lol

Edited by Christymarie, 17 April 2013 - 02:16 PM.


#7 Deadscumlord

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Posted 17 April 2013 - 02:16 PM

View PostConviqx, on 17 April 2013 - 01:38 PM, said:

Blazing speed + blink 'nough said

lol at a hunter and rogue even comenting on anyhting a mage says. u sit mages all day and dump ur 4 or 5 interupts into him while having the easiest CC in the game and ur gunna talk about mages... lol even the content editors have stupid troll responses

Edited by Christymarie, 17 April 2013 - 05:49 PM.


#8 Unseenz

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Posted 17 April 2013 - 02:26 PM

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Posted 17 April 2013 - 02:27 PM

Subterfuge should be a mini dance(you can use stealth abilities, but you can be seen). Stealth is far too noob friendly atm.
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Posted 17 April 2013 - 02:36 PM

View PostPawzz, on 17 April 2013 - 01:42 PM, said:

who plays with blazing speed rofl

Blazing speed is incredible.

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Posted 17 April 2013 - 02:38 PM

View PostChristymarie, on 17 April 2013 - 02:16 PM, said:

lol at a hunter even comenting on anyhting a mage says. u sit mages all day and dump ur 4 or 5 interupts into him while having the easiest CC in the game and ur gunna talk about mages... lol even the content editors have stupid troll responses

i'm a rogue ._. pet nova our subterfuge and you'll be fine stop whining and use your abilities
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Posted 17 April 2013 - 02:38 PM

subterfuge, deadly throw and shuriken toss are retarded and and blizzard need to do anything with that.

subterfuge should work like that
When your Stealth breaks you can still use stealth abilites for 3 sec
the 3 sec invi is retarded OP

cloak and dagger combined with subterfuge is also too strong should be nerfed
with dance its ok

Edited by Coldizzle, 17 April 2013 - 02:42 PM.


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Posted 17 April 2013 - 02:58 PM

View PostConviqx, on 17 April 2013 - 02:38 PM, said:

i'm a rogue ._. pet nova our subterfuge and you'll be fine stop whining and use your abilities


what an idiot. yeah imma nova the garrote cheap shot that i cant blink out of so u can sit there doing damage. thats my whole point. we cant get away from the opener. cause garrote takes alot of skil to use. the most ridiculous blanket in the game,

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Posted 17 April 2013 - 03:10 PM

View PostChristymarie, on 17 April 2013 - 02:16 PM, said:

lol at a hunter even comenting on anyhting a mage says. u sit mages all day and dump ur 4 or 5 interupts into him while having the easiest CC in the game and ur gunna talk about mages... lol even the content editors have stupid troll responses

lmao are you fucking stupid, why did you quote the rogue and direct the comment towards me. And I play a mage aswell you little fuck, you do not choose what I comment on.

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Posted 17 April 2013 - 03:15 PM

Yeah, this thread went from the discussion about a rogue talent to a Mage flaming anyone not sharing the same opinion.

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Posted 17 April 2013 - 03:15 PM

View PostRenaissance_Man, on 17 April 2013 - 02:36 PM, said:

Blazing speed is incredible.
I think PoM is the preferable choice to use in almost any setup.

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Posted 17 April 2013 - 03:24 PM

Blazing speed is for turtling fags and CaD is what's broken. Subterfuge just needs to break stealth

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Posted 17 April 2013 - 03:39 PM

Trinket opener, profit. (asuming its 1v1?)

Edited by rizzy, 17 April 2013 - 03:40 PM.


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Posted 17 April 2013 - 03:39 PM

ye its op, lets buff mages.

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Posted 17 April 2013 - 03:46 PM

They either need to make you visible during subterfurge or make cloak and dagger not work with it so atleast they wont get instantly back after a knockback. I enjoy mongoloid thugcleaves being unpeelable for 30seconds while doing 100k dps




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