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#1 Salutations

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Posted 12 April 2013 - 02:22 AM

I really have the feeling that they won't do anything for afliction in 5.3, so i made a thread on the official forum and i tweeted it to developpers, i hope they will take into consideration.

Here are the changes i suggested, i don't think it's too much asking, it will just make us viable again, not OP.

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1) Siphon life should be a passive effect and not a glyph.

2) - Haunt should return some hps to the warlock like it was in cataclysm.
   - The shard cost for the haunt is really gamebreaking and make us really weak.
   I think there is 2 options to fix that :

Increase shard proc rate against pvp players, it's the easiest way, 8% would be balanced enough.
The other way is to put a cooldown on Haunt and make it cost no shard at all.

3) The old spiritual link should be back, i really don't know why developpers changed that mechanic.
The talent is now almost useless because when your pet receive damage, it's shared with you, there is no utility to choose Spiritual Link except vs a minority of comps.
Spiritual link need to reduce damage taken by 20%, that's all.

4) Life Tap is a very old mechanic, while other dps class can have infinite mana, we need to sacrifice our hps to gain mana. It doesn't make any sense tbh.
Something should be changed on this talent.

5) Make the -25% corruption nerf PVE ONLY (like you did for frostbomb), affliction damage were already really low during 5.1 and we were all awaiting for a damage buff, but we got nerfed :( ?

6) Soul Burn / Soul Swap, 2 options to fix :

- Dots casted manually should do slightly more damage than dots applied by SB / SS or just delete the SB / SS mechanic and make dots do a significative amount of damage.
- Or maybe dots should scale better with pvp power.

7) Dark Intent shouldn't be dispellable i guess (this is just my opinion here)

8) Howl and Coil shouldn't be together on the level 30 talent tier, they have to be separated.
Put Burning Rush or Blood Horror on level 30 talent tier and howl lvl 60 tier.
Affliction need to have those 2 spells, having to choose between howl or coil have been a huge nerf for us.

9) If our dots are getting buffed in 5.3, Demon Soul need to be tuned down a bit to avoid huge burst.

here is the thread : http://eu.battle.net...opic/7256217702
i made the thread because i can't tweet everything to them, you just have 50 caracters max.

Edited by Salutations, 12 April 2013 - 02:02 PM.


#2 Filthpig

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Posted 12 April 2013 - 03:30 AM

I tweet holinka regularly and he said aff buffs have been talked about and are in the works. Just wait and stop posting about it.

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Posted 12 April 2013 - 03:34 AM

View PostFilthpig, on 12 April 2013 - 03:30 AM, said:

I tweet holinka regularly and he said aff buffs have been talked about and are in the works. Just wait and stop posting about it.

Don't be retarded. The developers already said they don't get enough feedback on PvP.
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Posted 12 April 2013 - 03:36 AM

View PostTya, on 12 April 2013 - 03:34 AM, said:

Don't be retarded. The developers already said they don't get enough feedback on PvP.

Don't be retarded, this guy whines about affliction buffs in a million posts a day. The age of GC is over, look how fast changes are being made.

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Posted 12 April 2013 - 03:41 AM

View PostFilthpig, on 12 April 2013 - 03:36 AM, said:

Don't be retarded, this guy whines about affliction buffs in a million posts a day. The age of GC is over, look how fast changes are being made.

Which part of "we don't get enough PvP feedback" confuses you?
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Posted 12 April 2013 - 03:43 AM

There is plenty of feedback from high rated players, but blizzard likes to balance for the majority.

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Posted 12 April 2013 - 04:24 AM

View PostFilthpig, on 12 April 2013 - 03:43 AM, said:

There is plenty of feedback from high rated players, but blizzard likes to balance for the majority.

cool dog you have it all figured out. Every single set of patch notes that is released is the opposite of an afflic buff. when in the hell has anything in this world happened by doing nothing? the more you ask, the greater your chance is to receive.

bliz has 0 and i mean a big fucking fat zero in the credibility department when it comes to helping weak classes compete in a timely matter. the more voices, the better.

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Posted 12 April 2013 - 04:34 AM

Holinka seems to be on top of things. If there was ever a glimmer of hope for pvp, it is with him.

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Posted 12 April 2013 - 04:37 AM

I'm all down for the dots getting buffed but the single target burst will definitely have to be toned down.

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Posted 12 April 2013 - 04:43 AM

this guy whines so much
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Posted 12 April 2013 - 05:14 AM

sup kek

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Posted 12 April 2013 - 06:18 AM

View PostDeeklol, on 12 April 2013 - 04:43 AM, said:

this guy whines so much


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Posted 12 April 2013 - 08:18 AM

View PostRegent, on 12 April 2013 - 04:37 AM, said:

I'm all down for the dots getting buffed but the single target burst will definitely have to be toned down.

What single target burst are you refering to?

View PostBraindance, on 22 June 2013 - 07:05 AM, said:

The current season is at a very good spot balance-wise. There is a comp variety that hasn't been seen in the game since s8.

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Posted 12 April 2013 - 09:36 AM

Yeah the OP does whine a lot...but I don't think people should be discouraged from making suggestions to the devs, especially if they are good ones like the post he has made... Normally they are trash, but he has made some good points.  It might give the devs good ideas to implement.
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Posted 12 April 2013 - 11:37 AM

look at 5.3 patch note, while every class get a lot of changes, nothing happen for affliction, that's why i'm a bit scared that they won't buff us.

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Posted 12 April 2013 - 11:46 AM

New changes has been added on a near daily basis, do yourself (and us!) a favor and get twitter.

View PostBraindance, on 22 June 2013 - 07:05 AM, said:

The current season is at a very good spot balance-wise. There is a comp variety that hasn't been seen in the game since s8.

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Posted 12 April 2013 - 12:18 PM

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Posted 12 April 2013 - 12:34 PM

they should just give us felhunter dispel back tbh.  just like sps have md. i don't know. put a 1 minute cooldown on it or something.

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Posted 12 April 2013 - 01:05 PM

View PostSalutations, on 12 April 2013 - 11:37 AM, said:

look at 5.3 patch note, while every class get a lot of changes, nothing happen for affliction, that's why i'm a bit scared that they won't buff us.

They need to figure out how to buff Affliction in PvP without it hurting PvE, that's why it takes so long. If you look at the current notes such as the Warrior rage buffs they don't affect PvE at all.

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Posted 15 April 2013 - 07:08 PM

Haunt now refunds a Soul Shard when it is dispelled.     







BLIZZ COMES WITH THE RESCUE. CLASS FIXED, GUYS.
Nah, maybe too early to mock their decisions, but I'm quite positive they're not gonna do anything relevant about warlocks in 5.3, since they don't wanna change the way they work in PvE and there's simply no solution to fix the class without touching PvE. Taking their fixing rate in consideration, I suggest all the warlocks to reroll something OP then come back in ~S18. That's the way to go if you wanna succeed in PvP these days. You never know what you're gonna get in this game when you level a class. It might just randomly become useless for x seasons without being fixed; and the other way around, certain specs just stay overpowered for years.
Sad game.




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