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#21 Creamo

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Posted 05 June 2013 - 06:21 AM

Great guide, thanks for posting (now that I can say it...and you can respond :P).
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Posted 07 June 2013 - 12:54 PM

Great guide, thanks for posting (now that I can say it...and you can respond :P).


Ha thanks. It does feel good to know I can finally update the guide too =p
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Posted 07 June 2013 - 01:40 PM

FYI - updated for 5.3, also added in some of the macros from Snuggli and the info about viability in 2s from HackAttack3. Enjoy!
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Posted 07 June 2013 - 01:51 PM

What trinkets do you recommend?

I see a lot of people using Relic, but afaik Insignia is just as good if not better. Relic is about .6% static crit, but I've heard pvp power > int for boomkin, which would make insignia better, yeah?
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Posted 07 June 2013 - 02:33 PM

What trinkets do you recommend?

I see a lot of people using Relic, but afaik Insignia is just as good if not better. Relic is about .6% static crit, but I've heard pvp power > int for boomkin, which would make insignia better, yeah?

Well, pvp power got nerfed by 40 percent this patch; making it by far the worst stat, you can hardly compare the 2.
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#26 Contrololold

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Posted 07 June 2013 - 02:45 PM

pvp power got nerfed by 40 percent this patch


Guess I should read patch notes -_-
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Posted 07 June 2013 - 03:53 PM

Relic's proc and static int are just insanely good IMHO. I haven't managed to pickup an UVLS yet to test that out (that would be BIS if it procs even remotely often) but that could be competitive too, if you play the 'pop all cds when it procs' game, similar to melee before they nerfed the Shadow-pan assault trinket.

So unless you have the ability to test UVLS and see if the low proc rate works for you, I'd stick with Relic for now, personally.
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Posted 07 June 2013 - 04:59 PM

Relic's proc and static int are just insanely good IMHO. I haven't managed to pickup an UVLS yet to test that out (that would be BIS if it procs even remotely often) but that could be competitive too, if you play the 'pop all cds when it procs' game, similar to melee before they nerfed the Shadow-pan assault trinket.

So unless you have the ability to test UVLS and see if the low proc rate works for you, I'd stick with Relic for now, personally.

I have all 4 LFR trinkets (stupidly good luck, don't ask). The best two by far imo are http://us.battle.net/wow/en/item/95669 and http://us.battle.net/wow/en/item/95772. WFC's stacking int proc ramps up for 20 seconds, then stays at max for 20 seconds. At this point I'm leaning towards Cha-Ye for arena and WFC for rbg's.
Anyone else looked into these?
I haven't even bothered to try UVLS, its icd is just ridiculous, and an 8 second burst window just doesn't seem worth it. I'll test it out tonight after work though.
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Posted 07 June 2013 - 05:04 PM

I have all 4 LFR trinkets (stupidly good luck, don't ask). The best two by far imo are http://us.battle.net/wow/en/item/95669 and http://us.battle.net/wow/en/item/95772. WFC's stacking int proc ramps up for 20 seconds, then stays at max for 20 seconds. At this point I'm leaning towards Cha-Ye for arena and WFC for rbg's.
Anyone else looked into these?
I haven't even bothered to try UVLS, its icd is just ridiculous, and an 8 second burst window just doesn't seem worth it. I'll test it out tonight after work though.


Just responding to the UVLS point - keep in mind the strength of UVLS isn't the window that it procs, its using that window to multi dot all three targets and then getting chain SS procs for 10-15 secs and just turretting. This is, of course, in an ideal world and won't happen everytime.
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Posted 07 June 2013 - 11:52 PM

It would be very nice if you could add a gemming section to your guide.
Thats what i am looking for recently since i am gemmed for full critical but i am not sure if its worth it any more.
Maybe its better to go ful inteligence?
Or inteligence/crit orange gems?
Thank for your great guide btw.
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Posted 08 June 2013 - 12:10 AM

It would be very nice if you could add a gemming section to your guide.
Thats what i am looking for recently since i am gemmed for full critical but i am not sure if its worth it any more.
Maybe its better to go ful inteligence?
Or inteligence/crit orange gems?
Thank for your great guide btw.


+320 crit in yellows (Smooth)
+160 crit and +80 int in reds (Potent)
+160 crit and +80 PvP power in greens (Radiant)
Use 2x +320 crit in legs, nvm the socket bonus imo.
If you're a JC you should gem 2x +320 int gems since they give a total of +320 int instead of +320 random stat and 1 int > 1 random stat
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Posted 08 June 2013 - 03:12 AM

+320 crit in yellows (Smooth)
+160 crit and +80 int in reds (Potent)
+160 crit and +80 PvP power in greens (Radiant)
Use 2x +320 crit in legs, nvm the socket bonus imo.
If you're a JC you should gem 2x +320 int gems since they give a total of +320 int instead of +320 random stat and 1 int > 1 random stat

If you have 2pc pve (10% crit to surge) I'd probably stack int, if using 4pc pvp, definitely crit. All that pure int pretty well makes up for the pvp power loss, damage and healing wise, and the tier gear has a ton of passive crit already.
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Posted 08 June 2013 - 04:08 AM

It would be very nice if you could add a gemming section to your guide.
Thats what i am looking for recently since i am gemmed for full critical but i am not sure if its worth it any more.
Maybe its better to go ful inteligence?
Or inteligence/crit orange gems?
Thank for your great guide btw.

+320 crit in yellows (Smooth)
+160 crit and +80 int in reds (Potent)
+160 crit and +80 PvP power in greens (Radiant)
Use 2x +320 crit in legs, nvm the socket bonus imo.
If you're a JC you should gem 2x +320 int gems since they give a total of +320 int instead of +320 random stat and 1 int > 1 random stat


I mostly agree with this, and you're right gemming would be a good idea to add, I'll try and get some time to add it. The part I disagree with is using pvp power in blues. I would just gem crit/hit in those slots, and reforge off the hit you don't need into crit.
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Posted 18 August 2013 - 11:08 AM

Nice post
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Posted 18 August 2013 - 12:52 PM

For a class that has relativity no rotation you sure put a lot of effort into this guide.

Fair play mate good guide +rep
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Posted 06 September 2014 - 12:25 AM

10/10 i just fully geared my druid as boomkin
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