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#1 proffset

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Posted 30 March 2013 - 09:58 AM

Hello, I'm writing this in hopes that someone who has some more influence could maybe try to make a tweet or something to the superdev holinka and make something about it.

This new trinket from the shado-pan assault (http://www.wowhead.com/item=94511) is fucking retarded. I Assume the str version may be aswell but havent experienced it yet, anyways basically was playing 3s the other day and met a hunter called zionsfall who has this trinket and I have little youtube link for that game (). Doesn't show that good but you can check the frame of the druid, he had barskin up instantly trinketed first stun into half one and attempted to disperse but died in it. And as you see it is only the hunter on him.

I then watched hydras stream and he was playing abit with this hunter and the feral who died in the clip, and they started kinda low but ended up rather high. I'm not saying anyone of them are bad becouse they are not, but its kinda silly how they win very "respected" or atleast high teams the first time they play together, basically having the tactic that when his trinket proccs they pop everything and oneshot or get all cds and eventually land the kill.

This may seem as a ragethread and it might be slightly written in anger but mostly I just cannot be arsed to see this kind of bullshit in PvP, his tactic is LITERALLY wait for trinket proc and often globan someone.

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Posted 30 March 2013 - 10:10 AM

I know a rogue that uses it in RBG's hits 180k ambushes in dance with no added procs or CD's.
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Posted 30 March 2013 - 10:25 AM

Yep thats the way it should be :confused: Anyhow I was gonna say maybe its just the fact u can pair it with on-use as human and all your other cds, but if you say he does 180k ambushes with it I'll go ahead and say its still to strong without then.

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Posted 30 March 2013 - 10:57 AM

Yeah, I think they put 8800 agility as a proc by mistake. The other trinkets are passive main stat + secondary stat (rating) on proc, e.g. passive int and 8800 haste proc.
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Posted 30 March 2013 - 10:59 AM

The strenght one proccs 8800 strenght but is only active 15seconds (75 icd instead of 110 though)

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Posted 30 March 2013 - 11:04 AM

those have a very low proc rate in arena though, no?
what happened to that statement of blizzard

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Posted 30 March 2013 - 11:05 AM

Well the item lvl is going to cap in arena next patch i belive, then i should be abit weaker, i do not know if it would change it too much tho considering item lvl 522 gives 8800 agility and item lvl 530 gives 9481 agility i would say its a major blow to the trinket in arena next patch

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Posted 30 March 2013 - 11:06 AM

It doesn't seem like it to me, he gets the trinket procc rather quickly in every arena match I've seen on the stream and then goes all out.

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Posted 30 March 2013 - 11:07 AM

View PostIniciate, on 30 March 2013 - 11:05 AM, said:

Well the item lvl is going to cap in arena next patch i belive, then i should be abit weaker, i do not know if it would change it too much tho considering item lvl 522 gives 8800 agility and item lvl 530 gives 9481 agility i would say its a major blow to the trinket in arena next patch

I really dont wanna have to face people who can oneshot you becouse of a trinket until next patch.

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Posted 30 March 2013 - 11:58 AM

View Postproffset, on 30 March 2013 - 11:07 AM, said:

I really dont wanna have to face people who can oneshot you becouse of a trinket until next patch.
You're implying the "one shots" are happening because of a trinket? Quite sure you're missing the real problem : P
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Posted 30 March 2013 - 12:00 PM

View Postproffset, on 30 March 2013 - 11:06 AM, said:

It doesn't seem like it to me, he gets the trinket procc rather quickly in every arena match I've seen on the stream and then goes all out.

They buffed every trinket proc chance on a "pull" by fucktons, resulting even in these PvE trinkets in PvP proc at very start of the fights.
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Posted 30 March 2013 - 12:16 PM

View PostKettu, on 30 March 2013 - 11:58 AM, said:

You're implying the "one shots" are happening because of a trinket? Quite sure missing the real problem : P
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Posted 30 March 2013 - 01:33 PM

View PostDjandawg, on 30 March 2013 - 11:04 AM, said:

those have a very low proc rate in arena though, no?
what happened to that statement of blizzard
i copied this to a notepad from when they gave info about the proc chance of all the trinkets, afaik there has been no newer news on their proc chance. as you can see it's only 2 of them which has a reduced proc chance in pvp (100% crit caster trinket and every secondary stat -> highest secondary stat  for agility users)


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edit: i tried breath of the hydra + wushoolay's final choice in both arena and duels, and they definitely do not have reduced proc chance in pvp, they procced about once every 2 minutes, as they should with 0.5 rppm.

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Posted 30 March 2013 - 01:41 PM

View PostWallirik, on 30 March 2013 - 01:33 PM, said:

i copied this to a notepad from when they gave info about the proc chance of all the trinkets, afaik there has been no newer news on their proc chance. as you can see it's only 2 of them which has a reduced proc chance in pvp (100% crit caster trinket and every secondary stat -> highest secondary stat  for agility users)


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edit: i tried breath of the hydra + wushoolay's final choice in both arena and duels, and they definitely do not have reduced proc chance in pvp, they procced about once every 2 minutes, as they should with 0.5 rppm.

Yeah I did 3s today on my rogue with a monk that had the shado-pan agi trinket and it procced almost instantly in every fight and when it was back up again.

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Posted 30 March 2013 - 01:48 PM

it's only the rep trinkets that proc at a predictable time though. all the other trinkets use horrible rppm system.

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Posted 30 March 2013 - 05:06 PM

Wow thats nice

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Posted 30 March 2013 - 07:16 PM

This is just blizzard's way of making you do dailies.
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Posted 30 March 2013 - 10:32 PM

View PostTenk, on 30 March 2013 - 07:16 PM, said:

This is just blizzard's way of making you do dailies.

You don't have to do dailies, lol. You go into LFR like once or twice to get the rep and then you get valor from easy heroics n shit.

Edit: After second boss of first half of LFR, I was at 1860/3000 rep.

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Posted 31 March 2013 - 12:04 AM

View PostNitric, on 30 March 2013 - 10:32 PM, said:

You don't have to do dailies, lol. You go into LFR like once or twice to get the rep and then you get valor from easy heroics n shit.

Edit: After second boss of first half of LFR, I was at 1860/3000 rep.
You end up friendly after clearing the first of the new LFRs.

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Posted 31 March 2013 - 12:19 AM

allways something new that globals people. =O
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