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#61 Pradafiend

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Posted 29 March 2013 - 06:19 PM

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#62 Angelce

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Posted 29 March 2013 - 06:40 PM

Thank god, this was needed. It seems I won't die through Wall & DBTS again! (@ mages' DF globals obviously)

#63 a1entity

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Posted 29 March 2013 - 06:42 PM

View PostThugjitsu, on 29 March 2013 - 06:10 PM, said:

I smell fear in this DK...

Yes pretty much, i don't want repeat of the last season, i enjoy warriors cries so much now, i really really enjoy warriors being in the same state this season as DK's were last one.

It doesn't really benefit the balances and technically its not right but I still cannot forget KFC or anything with warrior.
So right now it feels very good not seeing warriors above 2100....

Edited by a1entity, 29 March 2013 - 06:46 PM.


#64 Braindance

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Posted 29 March 2013 - 06:43 PM

View Posta1entity, on 29 March 2013 - 06:42 PM, said:

Yes pretty much, i don't want repeat of the last season, i enjoy warriors cries so much now, i really really enjoy warriors being in the same state this season as DK's were last one.
That is so very mature of you

View PostZerstiren, on 14 August 2011 - 01:21 AM, said:

If you haven't +repped this guy, you are part of the problem.

View PostRenaissance_Man, on 31 July 2013 - 04:31 AM, said:

If I had a gun with two bullets and I was in a room with Hitler, bin Laden, and you, I would shoot you twice.

View Postsimonfra1234, on 25 August 2011 - 08:46 PM, said:

bro you got +rep'd by rapture...

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Posted 29 March 2013 - 06:45 PM

very nice.
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#66 Angelce

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Posted 29 March 2013 - 07:04 PM

View Posta1entity, on 29 March 2013 - 06:42 PM, said:

i really really enjoy warriors being in the same state this season as DK's were last one.
So DKs were bad last season?
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#67 Djandawg

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Posted 29 March 2013 - 07:04 PM

I dunno how this looks like in arena, yet. I really hope that we don't have a repeat situation where one guy is the unkillable target that destroys the arena experience of others. That said, they were kinda too susceptible to mage burst, so it's warranted.

Balance wise, one thing I would like to see removed is disruptive shout. I find anything else minor.  It's just destructive to the game, you miss pummel, the guy still needs to go through stuns and another interrupt, same way hunter readiness resetting cc cds, you somehow manage the first trap , 2 secs later u get lullaby'd into trap or dks missing mindfreeze , into double grip, into asphyxiate into pet stun, rogues miss kick into gouge/kidney/para. poison etc.

Edited by Djandawg, 29 March 2013 - 07:07 PM.


#68 Braindance

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Posted 29 March 2013 - 07:19 PM

View Posta1entity, on 29 March 2013 - 07:14 PM, said:

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Same goes for s5 from our perspective - besides if this buff goes through and warriors don't like they're made of paper it will create even more viable setups for you=more teammates, so it's a good change for dks as well. In addition, you don't die nearly as fast as you did last season vs warriors, so everything will be OK.

View PostZerstiren, on 14 August 2011 - 01:21 AM, said:

If you haven't +repped this guy, you are part of the problem.

View PostRenaissance_Man, on 31 July 2013 - 04:31 AM, said:

If I had a gun with two bullets and I was in a room with Hitler, bin Laden, and you, I would shoot you twice.

View Postsimonfra1234, on 25 August 2011 - 08:46 PM, said:

bro you got +rep'd by rapture...

#69 a1entity

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Posted 29 March 2013 - 07:40 PM

View PostThugjitsu, on 29 March 2013 - 07:36 PM, said:

One more thing, you shouldn't let yourself get trolled so hard lol...

SMILE, ITS EASTER WEEKEND :)

I am actually smiling not taking this seriously but in all honesty i am glad warriors getting buffs. Now i would really want to see slight nerf to deep freeze.

#70 heavi

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Posted 29 March 2013 - 07:51 PM

View PostBlackonblack, on 29 March 2013 - 01:10 PM, said:

Warriors in this thread should try playing enhancement shaman for a few days. That'll make you appreciate the defensives you already have.

Fail.  Enhance shamans are so underrated.  They have great damage, good burst, multiple "trinket" like abilities (grounding, range interrupt, glyph of shamanistic rage, and trinket itself).  While warriors only have trinket to get out of one stun every 2 minutes.  

If that argument doesn't convince you then think about Enhancement utility.  They got tremor, purge, hex, off-heals, decurses.  On top of that they can do as much overall damage as warriors.  Not to mention, they get ignored because resto shamans are the main spec blizzard looks at.  As a result, most patches they get more and more buffed through resto healing buffs.

Warriors only have damage as their "CC".  They've got a fear every 1min 30 seconds but it's like they can't even use that because of all the shaman healers @ high rating (tremor totem).  They've got focus charge but most of the time they don't want to use their only gap closer as an interrupt just to run back - which by then the CC stun on the focus target is already gone and casting already.  But we have shockwave, I'll give you that point.  Also, when we're running for our lives we can't help ourselves.  We can't heal ourselves, we can't DPS because if we go back in battle stance we'll die and defensive stance rage is terrible with overpower costing 10rage.  Basically the lack of warrior utility + running away = no DPS/DMG - and that is our main utility in arena at the moment.

What I'm saying is.. if warriors die as easily as they do now having only 1 trinket and being easily focused for the whole game to the point we can't even DPS? then we're worthless most of the time.  If DPS/DMG is our utility in the game then give warriors a chance to DPS.  Last season was TOO good, the start of season is terrible.

But these current buffs seem good.

Edited by heavi, 29 March 2013 - 07:53 PM.


#71 Pradafiend

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Posted 29 March 2013 - 07:51 PM

bandz make her dance

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Posted 29 March 2013 - 07:56 PM

Like if warriors needs this

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Posted 29 March 2013 - 09:02 PM

KFC, TSG, Warrior/Shadowpriest/Healer, Warrior/Mage/Healer, Warrior/Lock/Healer, decisions decisions....

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Posted 29 March 2013 - 09:09 PM

buff aff locks and rogues
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Posted 29 March 2013 - 09:39 PM

Great.

Now Blizzard should add something just remotely useful to Berserker Stance as well - to bring back stancedancing.

Perhaps an increased kind of risk/reward-mechanic (some may argue it already is) or something like a run speed bonus.

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Posted 30 March 2013 - 12:33 AM

View Posta1entity, on 29 March 2013 - 05:55 PM, said:

KFC will be slightly better but won't be anything like last season. Warriors don't have control they used to have.

HE'S SCARED OF MAH TEAM.  BRING IT FOOL

#77 Larosx

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Posted 30 March 2013 - 02:08 AM

yay! ty blizz, hopefully this goes through. warrior survivability wont be as good as it was last season still bc we cant lock someone down for 7 seconds with warbringer and shockwave so often, but we should be in a much better state after this.

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Posted 30 March 2013 - 04:25 AM

Is this a hotfix change or we have to waith till patch 5.3? anyone?

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Posted 30 March 2013 - 05:55 AM

View PostProphacy, on 30 March 2013 - 04:25 AM, said:

Is this a hotfix change or we have to waith till patch 5.3? anyone?

Its for 5.3
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Posted 30 March 2013 - 07:42 PM

fuk ye





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