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Posted 28 March 2013 - 09:49 PM

They can keep Shurikan toss if they nerf the Kidney->Cheap->garrote->Garrote->Paralytic->Probably Psychic horror.

#42 mimmick

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Posted 29 March 2013 - 02:30 AM

View PostSania, on 28 March 2013 - 04:30 PM, said:

So if feral's couldnt SS out of roots we should be able to do 50-70k Wraths? *note* wrath has a cast time ST dosnt.
just got hit for a 70k wrath soo umm yeah hahaha

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Posted 30 March 2013 - 06:44 AM

My idea would look like this;
Shurikan Toss should only gain combo points and deadly should interrupt castsand have a 5 secs cd. There should be no 'real' dmg outgoing in our range attacks as Rogue.

And I agree that the state of Shurikan Toss now, is a completely stupid ability and I laugh everytime I use it and kill a hunter/mage or whatever range dps.  

But same time - there is too much fucking crying in this community. Blizzard have already read the first 100 pages of whining about ST.
Could we fucking move on please.

#44 Icekingx

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Posted 30 March 2013 - 06:59 AM

View Postmimmick, on 29 March 2013 - 02:30 AM, said:

just got hit for a 70k wrath soo umm yeah hahaha
Oh have you not felt the wrath of the starsurge procs yet? Those should come with a warning label "this spell could and will global you"

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#45 Regent

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Posted 30 March 2013 - 07:42 AM

View PostSirAHM, on 30 March 2013 - 06:44 AM, said:

My idea would look like this;
Shurikan Toss should only gain combo points and deadly should interrupt castsand have a 5 secs cd. There should be no 'real' dmg outgoing in our range attacks as Rogue.

And I agree that the state of Shurikan Toss now, is a completely stupid ability and I laugh everytime I use it and kill a hunter/mage or whatever range dps.  

But same time - there is too much fucking crying in this community. Blizzard have already read the first 100 pages of whining about ST.
Could we fucking move on please.

"I agree the move is dumb, but what it we all stopped saying it is dumb and use reverse logic on blizzard so they nerf it."

Sounds like a plan to me.

The problem with ST is this:

When you get opened on by a rogue and you want to "counter play" his damage what do you do? You can either hard CC him or slow him and do your best to kite. Certain classes can can almost only kite, with no instant hard CC (shamans, dks, etc).

If I am an ele shaman and I get opened on by a rogue, I can root him/slow him and start moving away. In the past this would have the rogue off of me for a few seconds and I would be able to retaliate with some pressure on him or his teammates. Now when a rogue opens on you, and you spend a few seconds slowing/rooting and kiting you are actually falling further behind than you were when you were in melee range.

Melee classes have always done high burst damage in arena because they aren't supposed to have 100% uptime, which now rogues can.

Edit: Just turned on Reckfuls stream after writing this and at least 40% of his ability use is on ST and he doesn't have DT.

Edited by Regent, 30 March 2013 - 07:50 AM.


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Posted 30 March 2013 - 09:35 AM

View PostIcekingx, on 30 March 2013 - 06:59 AM, said:

Oh have you not felt the wrath of the starsurge procs yet? Those should come with a warning label "this spell could and will global you"
well if i didnt feint before i got wrathed i wouldnt care but yeah

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Posted 30 March 2013 - 09:42 AM

View Postmimmick, on 30 March 2013 - 09:35 AM, said:

well if i didnt feint before i got wrathed i wouldnt care but yeah
It's hard to be a rogue in a boomkings world.

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Posted 30 March 2013 - 10:47 AM

View PostIcekingx, on 30 March 2013 - 09:42 AM, said:

It's hard to be a rogue in a boomkings world.
he was resto rofl

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Posted 30 March 2013 - 12:30 PM

View Postmimmick, on 30 March 2013 - 10:47 AM, said:

he was resto rofl

lold so hard

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Posted 30 March 2013 - 02:11 PM

I think they should make it usable only while slowed/rooted ,because that is the only time you should actually be using it, not just being a hunter hugging box and hitting people for retarded dmg. I almost always play with anticipation anyway because I dont like the idea of being ranged class on demand...

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Posted 30 March 2013 - 02:13 PM

ST is retarded, there is no debating it

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Posted 30 March 2013 - 04:08 PM

I don't think that ST is overpowered =)))))))

Edited by Mirionx, 30 March 2013 - 04:09 PM.


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Posted 30 March 2013 - 06:42 PM

Stop being silly, you can call shuriken toss boring etc, but calling it OP is just stupid. The thing that needs adjusting is the 0 cooldown on deadly throw interrupt. Shuriken Toss itself is fine.

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Posted 30 March 2013 - 06:57 PM

I personally don't like ST and I pick MfD whenever it is even remotely feasible to not have ST. If you want to have ST nerfed I'm all for it, but then you have to give rogues better mobility (something along the lines of shadowstep baseline and possibly breaking roots), otherwise we're back to "waddle waddle".

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Posted 30 March 2013 - 07:00 PM

View Posthid, on 30 March 2013 - 06:42 PM, said:

Stop being silly, you can call shuriken toss boring etc, but calling it OP is just stupid. The thing that needs adjusting is the 0 cooldown on deadly throw interrupt. Shuriken Toss itself is fine.

Agree so much. It should be on par with disrupting shout imo.

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Posted 30 March 2013 - 07:28 PM

If a rogue would never get kitted he would never have to use shuriken toss and/or dealdy throw. I hear that casters say they need instant casts because they get trained and don't do shit, well there you have it, rogues need ranged attacks because they get kited and don't do shit. I would still take the tripple poison from last patch over the damage increase any day, just saying.

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Posted 30 March 2013 - 07:46 PM

Op classes crying out other op classes.
Op classes crying about other op classes crying about other op classes.
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Posted 30 March 2013 - 11:16 PM

giev deadly throw baseline without interupting part and nerfed dmg
that talent doesnt fits in that tier anyway

sorry for my english

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Posted 30 March 2013 - 11:39 PM

View Postmimmick, on 30 March 2013 - 10:47 AM, said:

he was resto rofl
This is MADNESS!

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Posted 31 March 2013 - 05:08 PM

View PostMattadoro, on 28 March 2013 - 07:43 PM, said:

just waiting for the hunter ability called pistol whipping where we smack our gun on people's head within melee range for 90k's as if they were ambush spams

i should be a dev

BRUISED UP FROM THE PISTOL WHIPPIN
NIGGA PLAYIN PUSSY, THATS A NIGGA THATS GETTIN SCREWD
GIMME THE LOOT
crazier than a bag of fucking angel dust




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