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#1 GrieverZ

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Posted 27 March 2013 - 04:29 AM

How do you deal with Unholy PHDs and Beastcleave? Both ran with BM Hunters obviously.

Its not really a complaint but i'm really out of ideas on how to deal with those kind of comps.

Both me and my partners can blow literally everything defensively and never stop stop the sheer pressure that just all the army of pets can generate.

I've seen game where my priests just died from pets because he couldn't outheal their damage+necrotics.

I run MM :hunter: :rogue: Disc :priest:.

Edit : My problem comes from BM + UH DK or Enhance, not Stampede alone wich by itself is a non-issue for the most part. Just feels there's TOO MANY pets to peel to stop the damage.

Edited by GrieverZ, 27 March 2013 - 06:12 AM.


#2 Filthpig

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Posted 27 March 2013 - 04:31 AM

Kite to priest.
Priest fear.

Alternatively:

Disengage and root the pets.

#3 GrieverZ

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Posted 27 March 2013 - 04:41 AM

View PostFilthpig, on 27 March 2013 - 04:31 AM, said:

Kite to priest.
Priest fear.

Alternatively:

Disengage and root the pets.

Guess its a positional problem, i'm rarely able to pull roots on everything, even if i do priest just get stunned (force grip or whatever) or Intdimidation or freedom totem or whatever, and fears get tremored if they run with an rsham or as beastcleave.

Edited by GrieverZ, 27 March 2013 - 04:44 AM.


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Posted 27 March 2013 - 04:57 AM

Tame them.   All of them.








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#5 Nitric

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Posted 27 March 2013 - 05:13 AM

Stampede does pretty shit damage after the fix with the bug. 125% (total, all 5 summoned pets combined) of your main pet's damage with white attacks and specials (isn't affected by Kill Command or Blink Strike). It does even less as Marks.

I pretty much only use Stampede for buffing myself/team on a kill attempt rather than it's actual damage.

Edit: It's pretty easily peelable - any AoE CC works on them (Psychic Scream, Disengage Root, etc.)

Edit2: Why aren't you killing something in the opener running thug?

Edit3: What the fuck? You're a hunter complaining about your own ability. Counter-pressure, mate.

Edited by Nitric, 27 March 2013 - 05:15 AM.


#6 GrieverZ

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Posted 27 March 2013 - 05:24 AM

View PostNitric, on 27 March 2013 - 05:13 AM, said:

Stampede does pretty shit damage after the fix with the bug. 125% (total, all 5 summoned pets combined) of your main pet's damage with white attacks and specials (isn't affected by Kill Command or Blink Strike). It does even less as Marks.

I pretty much only use Stampede for buffing myself/team on a kill attempt rather than it's actual damage.

Edit: It's pretty easily peelable - any AoE CC works on them (Psychic Scream, Disengage Root, etc.)

Edit2: Why aren't you killing something in the opener running thug?

Edit3: What the fuck? You're a hunter complaining about your own ability. Counter-pressure, mate.

Its not just stampede, its combination of 2 different pet heavy specs that makes it a pain in the ass, honestly wolves and DK pets are prolly a bigger factor than the zoo itself.

Don't think there's many thugs that can reliably get kills in openers every game, if i did i wouldn't ask for advices.

Also thats the thing, Thug is a burst comp, it can't counter pressure comps like PHD when dance/RF is gone.

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Posted 27 March 2013 - 02:13 PM

CC the shaman on the psychic scream to prevent tremor/windwalk.

To be honest, I think your real problem is that DKs completely shit all over priests. It's how the mechanics for each class work, not really much you can do unless you peel DK off of your priest.

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Posted 28 March 2013 - 01:28 AM

View PostNitric, on 27 March 2013 - 05:13 AM, said:

Stampede does pretty shit damage after the fix with the bug. 125% (total, all 5 summoned pets combined) of your main pet's damage with white attacks and specials (isn't affected by Kill Command or Blink Strike). It does even less as Marks.

I pretty much only use Stampede for buffing myself/team on a kill attempt rather than it's actual damage.

Edit: It's pretty easily peelable - any AoE CC works on them (Psychic Scream, Disengage Root, etc.)

Edit2: Why aren't you killing something in the opener running thug?

Edit3: What the fuck? You're a hunter complaining about your own ability. Counter-pressure, mate.

agreed,
I feel I use stampede as a scare tactic and to buff, basically.

edit:
in regards to the topic, DKs don't handle being tunneled by hunter/rogue very well. You will most likely force every CD in the opener, and kill on the next trap > fear.

Edited by Snipin, 28 March 2013 - 01:32 AM.


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Posted 28 March 2013 - 01:37 AM

View PostGrieverZ, on 27 March 2013 - 04:29 AM, said:

How do you deal with Unholy PHDs and Beastcleave? Both ran with BM Hunters obviously.

Its not really a complaint but i'm really out of ideas on how to deal with those kind of comps.

Both me and my partners can blow literally everything defensively and never stop stop the sheer pressure that just all the army of pets can generate.

I've seen game where my priests just died from pets because he couldn't outheal their damage+necrotics.

I run MM :hunter: :rogue: Disc :priest:.

Edit : My problem comes from BM + UH DK or Enhance, not Stampede alone wich by itself is a non-issue for the most part. Just feels there's TOO MANY pets to peel to stop the damage.

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Posted 09 April 2013 - 02:28 AM

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Posted 09 April 2013 - 02:31 AM

1. Apply Roar 2. Root both the dk and the pets 3.Spec BM MM is bait for stun cleaves 4. Open on the PHD's holy paladin and maintain pressure

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Posted 09 April 2013 - 02:43 AM

thug cleave crying about enhance hahahahha
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Posted 09 April 2013 - 02:53 AM

I'm on the same bg as you and DK's are fucking annoying. Everytime I que, it's into a PHD. Just wait till you're at a 2k mmr. All you face is PHD.

Also, I'm running Shaman, Boomy, Rogue....

Edited by OhhiimMvp, 09 April 2013 - 02:54 AM.


#14 Icekingx

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Posted 09 April 2013 - 03:05 AM

The rise of PHD.

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Posted 10 April 2013 - 01:41 AM

View PostOhhiimMvp, on 09 April 2013 - 02:53 AM, said:

I'm on the same bg as you and DK's are fucking annoying. Everytime I que, it's into a PHD. Just wait till you're at a 2k mmr. All you face is PHD.

Also, I'm running Shaman, Boomy, Rogue....

Yeah, Godcomp and PHD are pretty much 90% of shadowburn's ladder. Was around 2100 mmr before rerolling team a few times and getting farmed 5 different godcomps (cause infinite CC, close to infinite defense and being able to global about anything anytime is hard.)

Edited by GrieverZ, 10 April 2013 - 01:43 AM.


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Posted 11 April 2013 - 06:52 AM

Griever, i gave up MM to BM when a BM thug nuked me trough my healers sap and i had sac :<
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Posted 11 April 2013 - 07:02 AM

View PostRaphner, on 11 April 2013 - 06:52 AM, said:

Griever, i gave up MM to BM when a BM thug nuked me trough my healers sap and i had sac :<

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#18 GrieverZ

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Posted 14 April 2013 - 04:27 AM

View PostRaphner, on 11 April 2013 - 06:52 AM, said:

Griever, i gave up MM to BM when a BM thug nuked me trough my healers sap and i had sac :<

Yeah, just got destroyed by a Jungle team, died in the opening pounce (as MM). About to throw to towel as well.

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Posted 14 April 2013 - 04:53 AM

Abuse the fact you got both scare beast and shackle.

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Posted 03 May 2013 - 12:20 AM

Root everything, scare beast when he goes big red.
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