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#1 Izirak

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Posted 27 March 2013 - 01:38 AM

Not going to lie, this cyclone nerf feels really huge..

20s Feels like forever :(.

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Posted 27 March 2013 - 01:40 AM

any comps that still work for feral?
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Posted 27 March 2013 - 01:44 AM

r1 on my bg feral sp rshaman 2500

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Posted 27 March 2013 - 02:56 AM

All balance issues aside, it completely destroys the play style of the class.  Without being able to hard cast it for peels and preventing healing, it just guts the utility of feral and feels dumbed down and stupid. I would rather they got rid of instant clones all together and removed the CD.  They made this big ruckus about removing instant CC but left in all the obnoxious stuns/incapacitates/disarms.

I would imagine feral/sp/shaman is still good since it has sp/shaman in it ;)
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Posted 27 March 2013 - 03:37 AM

Ferals are so boring, biggest nerf was the growl 1

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Posted 27 March 2013 - 05:21 AM

Yeah, with the growl and clone CD I just feel other classes can bring more utility, and protection for your team. Not only that, but sometimes I just feel useless while someone with a freedom of some sort is destroying my partner (dks training my healer :( :( :( ), outside of HOTW heals.

I've been testing comps and Jungle/ Spriest Feral Rshaman/ Feral DK Priest all feel decent, but I think that's just because Hunters, Spriests, and dks are SO damn good. Other classes could fill the same role as me, and def provide more group utility.

Probably going to be restoing/moonkinging it up once I get the conquest to get tyrannical gear with honor. I'll feral for kicks sometimes until something changes.

Edited by Izirak, 27 March 2013 - 05:26 AM.


#7 Izirak

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Posted 27 March 2013 - 05:27 AM

View PostSupervagos, on 27 March 2013 - 01:44 AM, said:

r1 on my bg feral sp rshaman 2500

Yeah, it's still possible. But honestly any gladiator can be close to rank 1 right now if you just don't disband your teams to play other comps.

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Posted 27 March 2013 - 06:08 AM

Feral/Hunter still works

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Posted 27 March 2013 - 06:47 AM

ye jungle seems decent still :)

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#10 Izirak

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Posted 27 March 2013 - 06:59 AM

Yeah, I said it works, but I think hunter monk, hunter rogue, hell even hunter spriest are much better.

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Posted 27 March 2013 - 07:07 AM

You serious now right? That clone nerf isn't nearly as bad as people make it sound - you still have instant roots , hibernate (shamans+ other druids), and heals (instant healing touch is as good as ret heals).. On top of that you still have amazing damage even outside of cds.
You still have t1 comps like priest mage feral, hunter priest/pala feral, sp/feral/x and the only dks can replace you as a better dps class in those comps.

Edited by Braindance, 27 March 2013 - 07:15 AM.

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bro you got +rep'd by rapture...

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Posted 27 March 2013 - 09:53 AM

Jungle works well, FMP can only be regarded as T1 if you run Fire variant in my opinion braindance.
Kcleave/Ebola are weak due to the old variant revolving around feral cc and lockdown, its like a gimped version of TSG.

They needed to nerf instant clone so that it was preventable or counter able. However they needed to nerf the instant proc for it to 20 sec and not the actual spell. Being able to hard cast the clone to swap it etc is preventable and should've remained in the game for feral.

I also feel like they nerfed our skill-cap for the ability to swap clones, or clone to prevent heals. Unless I am running Jungle or Fire FMP i feel like I am unable to clone to prevent heals, or if i go for a peel i am trying to decide if i want to give up getting a kill for next 20 sec (if im targetting somthing other than a healer).

-They also nerfed the ability to clone a mage to prevent ring triggering, as well as the ability to prevent dispersion mana regeneration.

^-- Changes that were not stated in patch notes, but were still inadvertently changed.
changed.

Edited by rob-hype, 27 March 2013 - 09:54 AM.

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Posted 27 March 2013 - 10:07 AM

View PostBallerjones, on 27 March 2013 - 09:37 AM, said:

Please dont post ever again and do the community a favor.

The clone nerf is fucking huge, any feral can agree to that, was it warranted.... yes but not in that fashion.
The growl nerf was massive, derps dont even realise that was the biggest nerf of all.
Ferals do damage outside cds.............. ha ha

Rogues can replace ferals ez as fuck
Dks can replace ferals ez as fuck
All casters replace ferals

Why run fmp when u can run rmp
why run jungle cleave when u can run thug /phd
why run fps when rps / dk/spriest/xxx

why run feral at all? reroll boomkin at 27k conq cap

Please gtfo you filthy dune coon and dont talk smack attack.


PS I AM NOT COMPLAINING FERALS ARE SHIT SO OFF MY DICK

all i want is incarnation spam removed, thats all thank you

what was the growl nerf ? no gcd for bear form ? why was it that big of a nerf ? faerie fire silence ?
i think most ferals didn't even used the glyph.

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Posted 27 March 2013 - 10:19 AM

Growl nerf was huge, Fae silence 3 sec silence 15 sec cd and instant (growl = no gcd to get into bear).

Our silence was better than hunter/spriest silences last season cd wise, losing that was a huge nerf versus casters. Many high level ferals transitioned towards Fae as the season progressed. 3 sec blanket on every deep was big.
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Posted 27 March 2013 - 11:58 AM

View PostCovlol, on 27 March 2013 - 01:40 AM, said:

any comps that still work for feral?

Running Feral/Ele/Disc at almost 2400 MMR. Tried playing with a mage and rogue (in place of the feral) and we didn't have the same high amount of pressure. Feral mobility is great and makes it easy for a disc priest like myself to keep them moving (only have to dispel fears). Also, symbiosis share of clone to disc priests is absolutely strong as fuck. The only downside is that it costs 7% of my mana each time and I spam that shit.

Ferals paired with disc priests = clone nerf fixed / unkillable druids (dispersion)

#16 Izirak

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Posted 27 March 2013 - 12:07 PM

It takes 2 globals to land the silence now, really hard to stop things as soon as you need to b/c of it.

I agree completely Hype, if we use clone to peel at ALL it almost always means no kill for 20 more secs.

Feral just feels straight up botched right now.

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Posted 27 March 2013 - 01:12 PM

Revert clone shit
Get rid of incarnation
Buff bleeds

Ferals return

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Posted 27 March 2013 - 01:28 PM

Don't get why people think ferals are so bad.. they are still amazing. I'm even playing FPS at 2.5k-2.6k and we have about 22-2 altogether.

Edited by Virent, 27 March 2013 - 01:30 PM.

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Posted 27 March 2013 - 05:39 PM

View PostBallerjones, on 27 March 2013 - 09:37 AM, said:

Please dont post ever again and do the community a favor.

The clone nerf is fucking huge, any feral can agree to that, was it warranted.... yes but not in that fashion.
The growl nerf was massive, derps dont even realise that was the biggest nerf of all.
Ferals do damage outside cds.............. ha ha

Rogues can replace ferals ez as fuck
Dks can replace ferals ez as fuck
All casters replace ferals

Why run fmp when u can run rmp
why run jungle cleave when u can run thug /phd
why run fps when rps / dk/spriest/xxx

why run feral at all? reroll boomkin at 27k conq cap

Please gtfo you filthy dune coon and dont talk smack attack.


PS I AM NOT COMPLAINING FERALS ARE SHIT SO OFF MY DICK

all i want is incarnation spam removed, thats all thank you
learn to fucking play or buy a gun and shoot yourself.

View PostZerstiren, on 14 August 2011 - 01:21 AM, said:

If you haven't +repped this guy, you are part of the problem.

View PostRenaissance_Man, on 31 July 2013 - 04:31 AM, said:

If I had a gun with two bullets and I was in a room with Hitler, bin Laden, and you, I would shoot you twice.

View Postsimonfra1234, on 25 August 2011 - 08:46 PM, said:

bro you got +rep'd by rapture...

#20 Izirak

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Posted 27 March 2013 - 08:09 PM

I'm sure FPS can still work to 2500+ it was the best comp last season for feral (I got rank 1 as it), but that would require sitting on a team and not testing out other comps. On my BG any gladiator team who sits on a team gets close to rank 1. I'm pretty sure FPS is only good because of how god mode spriest's are with grip, lifeswap, and md.

The problem with cyclone CD is when people sit on my healer I have to decide to either clone, or try to root/stun to peel. If I clone I can no longer land a kill for at least 20s, and if they trinket it I just get to watch my healer blow way too many cds to live if they have a freedom/stunbreak mechanic. Now if the dps DO trinket that means they have a good chance of having some solid uptime on my healer. After the 20s, I now have to decide should I try to clone healer and get a kill?! Or do I need to clone the dps who have been on my healer for the last 20s forcing our cds?! I find it hard to make that choice a lot of the time, as we have to start playing offensive at some point! I took HOTW as a talent just so I don't have to watch my healer fade out of existence via dps just sitting on him, but that's a 6 min CD that last 2 clone CDs :(. I normally just use it early and go cat and use my instants for GIANT NS's while clone is on CD..

Feral is just a shit ton different and really frustrating to play right now. It totally blows watching mages/locks/other druids spamming their CC on your CDs and some DK just trinkets my first clone and rapes my healer in the ass. I feel forced to have to only use it on healers just so we can get some D CDs out of them.

Edited by Izirak, 27 March 2013 - 08:14 PM.





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