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#21 Darthgnoe

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Posted 23 March 2013 - 01:29 AM

View PostBraindance, on 23 March 2013 - 01:27 AM, said:

.................................

what

#22 Wallirik

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Posted 23 March 2013 - 01:30 AM

i was kinda looking forward to buying ra-den boost for 549 ilvl pve gear :(
god damn it, pve gear is so fun

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Posted 23 March 2013 - 01:30 AM

260 resil on neck

#24 Braindance

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Posted 23 March 2013 - 01:34 AM

View PostDarthgnoe, on 23 March 2013 - 01:29 AM, said:

what
What is the difference between pvp and pve gear?










































































Oh right, power

View PostZerstiren, on 14 August 2011 - 01:21 AM, said:

If you haven't +repped this guy, you are part of the problem.

View PostRenaissance_Man, on 31 July 2013 - 04:31 AM, said:

If I had a gun with two bullets and I was in a room with Hitler, bin Laden, and you, I would shoot you twice.

View Postsimonfra1234, on 25 August 2011 - 08:46 PM, said:

bro you got +rep'd by rapture...

#25 Darthgnoe

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Posted 23 March 2013 - 01:34 AM

at least we can quit doing RBGs lol, after everyone gets the 496 weapons all other gear upgrades won't be so meaningful especially since elite gear is now just cosmetic

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Posted 23 March 2013 - 01:34 AM

View PostBraindance, on 23 March 2013 - 01:24 AM, said:

What this means is that you can either pve or pvp and still have the same gear more or less.

Eg a heroic pve raider will have almost the same stats as a pvp geared player while in the arena. This means you can play pvp without rly worrying for gear even if you explicitly raid. Really neat.


last I checked pve gear didn't have pvp power on it

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Posted 23 March 2013 - 01:37 AM

View Postninadobrevx, on 23 March 2013 - 01:34 AM, said:



last I checked pve gear didn't have pvp power on it

ya which is fine since pvp gear should still be more powerful for pvp (even if only a little) this makes it so raiders can come into arena with out farming honor and do decent enough to gear them selves with conquest gear.
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#28 Darthgnoe

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Posted 23 March 2013 - 01:39 AM

wondering if this'll have an effect on arena activity

#29 Braindance

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Posted 23 March 2013 - 01:40 AM

View Postninadobrevx, on 23 March 2013 - 01:34 AM, said:



last I checked pve gear didn't have pvp power on it
Yes but the gear gap will be significantly smaller - besides you have double the secondary stats in pve gear so the difference isn't that huge

View PostZerstiren, on 14 August 2011 - 01:21 AM, said:

If you haven't +repped this guy, you are part of the problem.

View PostRenaissance_Man, on 31 July 2013 - 04:31 AM, said:

If I had a gun with two bullets and I was in a room with Hitler, bin Laden, and you, I would shoot you twice.

View Postsimonfra1234, on 25 August 2011 - 08:46 PM, said:

bro you got +rep'd by rapture...

#30 Mirionx

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Posted 23 March 2013 - 01:41 AM

View PostDarthgnoe, on 23 March 2013 - 01:39 AM, said:

wondering if this'll have an effect on arena activity

If you can do arenas with full pve gear and it'll be viable than yes it will. The problem right now is the amount of gear you need to do arenas.

This and merging a couple of BGs would be amazig.

#31 Darthgnoe

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Posted 23 March 2013 - 01:41 AM

View PostBraindance, on 23 March 2013 - 01:40 AM, said:

Yes but the gear gap will be significantly smaller - besides you have double the secondary stats in pve gear so the difference isn't that huge

afaik pvp gear and pve gear from the same item level has exactly the same stats bar pvp power and resil right?

#32 Razorx

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Posted 23 March 2013 - 01:42 AM

ye there trying to do all this to increase arena activity, i think its a good thing, since we've gone from like 40 glad 3s spots to 10 on most bgs

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Posted 23 March 2013 - 01:43 AM

View PostDarthgnoe, on 23 March 2013 - 01:08 AM, said:

  • A blog with additional information and explanation for the reasoning behind PvP changes will be available very soon.
  • All characters now have a base Resilience of 65%.
  • Resilience has been removed from most PvP gear.
  • Season 13 Tyrannical gear had their item levels increased to ilevel 496, up from ilevel 493.
  • Season 13 Tyrannical Elite gear had their item levels decreased to ilevel 496, down from ilevel 512.
  • Battlegrounds, Rated Battlegrounds, and Arenas now have an ilevel cap. All gear will be scaled down to ilevel 496.
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Posted 23 March 2013 - 01:43 AM

View PostBraindance, on 23 March 2013 - 01:40 AM, said:

Yes but the gear gap will be significantly smaller - besides you have double the secondary stats in pve gear so the difference isn't that huge
try to compare the items, you do not have double the secondary stats, it's pretty much the same.

edit: damn too late again, man this thread is on fire.

Edited by Wallirik, 23 March 2013 - 01:44 AM.


#35 Darthgnoe

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Posted 23 March 2013 - 01:45 AM

View PostWallirik, on 23 March 2013 - 01:43 AM, said:

try to compare the items, you do not have double the secondary stats, it's pretty much the same.

edit: damn too late again, man this thread is on fire.

sorry I'm responding to like everything atm, had too much coffee...
but I'm going to sleep now ;D

#36 Braindance

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Posted 23 March 2013 - 01:45 AM

View PostDarthgnoe, on 23 March 2013 - 01:41 AM, said:

afaik pvp gear and pve gear from the same item level has exactly the same stats bar pvp power and resil right?
Hmm ye i was stuck in older expansions. Well, even then you will only have to worry about power and not resilience. Plus, 4 set pve have much more potent effects than pvp to increase your dmg

View PostZerstiren, on 14 August 2011 - 01:21 AM, said:

If you haven't +repped this guy, you are part of the problem.

View PostRenaissance_Man, on 31 July 2013 - 04:31 AM, said:

If I had a gun with two bullets and I was in a room with Hitler, bin Laden, and you, I would shoot you twice.

View Postsimonfra1234, on 25 August 2011 - 08:46 PM, said:

bro you got +rep'd by rapture...

#37 Darthgnoe

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Posted 23 March 2013 - 01:47 AM

View PostBraindance, on 23 March 2013 - 01:45 AM, said:

Hmm ye i was stuck in older expansions. Well, even then you will only have to worry about power and not resilience. Plus, 4 set pve have much more potent effects than pvp to increase your dmg

k last reaction ;P I could very well see them disable pve bonusses in pvp tbh
I think they want pvp gear to still be used primarily in pvp

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Posted 23 March 2013 - 01:53 AM

View PostDarthgnoe, on 23 March 2013 - 01:47 AM, said:

k last reaction ;P I could very well see them disable pve bonusses in pvp tbh
I think they want pvp gear to still be used primarily in pvp
Well that would be too much - you will still have an edge in pvp gear, but why not let the casual player that does only lfr and dailies be able to somewhat compete (well, he will still be roflstomped but in a much slower pace creating the illusion that he is getting better).

Bottom line is that this is a really efficient and smart way to bridge pve and pvp, whilst, for the first time, giving pvp the edge.

So
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View PostZerstiren, on 14 August 2011 - 01:21 AM, said:

If you haven't +repped this guy, you are part of the problem.

View PostRenaissance_Man, on 31 July 2013 - 04:31 AM, said:

If I had a gun with two bullets and I was in a room with Hitler, bin Laden, and you, I would shoot you twice.

View Postsimonfra1234, on 25 August 2011 - 08:46 PM, said:

bro you got +rep'd by rapture...

#39 Khra

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Posted 23 March 2013 - 01:54 AM

YOu guys need to wait for the explanation

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Posted 23 March 2013 - 01:57 AM

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