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#21 Virent

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Posted 19 March 2013 - 01:59 AM

View PostDjandawg, on 19 March 2013 - 01:56 AM, said:

After you starred in a movie called "Dumb Slave"


Outplayed, didn't put a port down which resulted in dying.
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#22 dawtz

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Posted 19 March 2013 - 02:06 AM

The community is just horrible, I can't even rbg without being paranoid of joining a group that ddos's or is going to get dos'd if I join a game, and everyone in this game is so elitist its disgusting. As the community shrinks finding good partners also does which makes me not want to log on either...

#23 hirtqt

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Posted 19 March 2013 - 02:12 AM

View Postdawtz, on 19 March 2013 - 02:06 AM, said:

The community is just horrible, I can't even rbg without being paranoid of joining a group that ddos's or is going to get dos'd if I join a game, and everyone in this game is so elitist its disgusting. As the community shrinks finding good partners also does which makes me not want to log on either...

+rep
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#24 Salutations

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Posted 19 March 2013 - 04:59 AM

I wonder how many ppl stopped the game because of this shitty honor gear, can't wait to see glad spots for this season.

#25 Evolute

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Posted 19 March 2013 - 05:28 AM

I know I didn't try. Not because I didn't want to, as even with the gear disparity I wanted to try, but it wasn't fair to the people I played with to have 0/2 gear while everyone else was 2/2.

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Posted 19 March 2013 - 05:33 AM

every addon gets worse because of more spells and higher numbers, its no fun for new players/bad players to get smashed in 3 seconds i guess

#27 Salutations

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Posted 19 March 2013 - 06:16 AM

Official Blizzard Quote:

Holinka @holinka

we're not going to take away people's upgrades

Edited by Salutations, 19 March 2013 - 06:18 AM.


#28 Saradave

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Posted 19 March 2013 - 06:22 AM

NEVERMIND XD

Edited by Saradave, 19 March 2013 - 06:22 AM.

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#29 Hyuru

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Posted 19 March 2013 - 09:05 AM

View Postdawtz, on 19 March 2013 - 02:06 AM, said:

The community is just horrible, I can't even rbg without being paranoid of joining a group that ddos's or is going to get dos'd if I join a game, and everyone in this game is so elitist its disgusting. As the community shrinks finding good partners also does which makes me not want to log on either...
Pretty much this, it has nothing to do with gear/game beeing unbalanced, the community is just shit.

#30 ApplejackxD

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Posted 19 March 2013 - 09:33 AM

View PostHyrmine, on 18 March 2013 - 11:32 PM, said:

people who blame this on warriors are pretty much brain damaged. in s5 damage was so much more out of hand and arena was a lot more active.

the game simply got old, get over it.

Game got old, that's how you explain that arena participation is low even though the game has over 9 million players? Gosh, you must be one of the stupidest people on this forum. The participation is low because RBG is far more rewarding for the people who know they cannot get gladiator anyway!
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#31 Kelberot

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Posted 19 March 2013 - 09:58 AM

View Postdawtz, on 19 March 2013 - 02:06 AM, said:

The community is just horrible, I can't even rbg without being paranoid of joining a group that ddos's or is going to get dos'd if I join a game, and everyone in this game is so elitist its disgusting. As the community shrinks finding good partners also does which makes me not want to log on either...
Exactly.
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#32 Jinngofagswag

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Posted 19 March 2013 - 10:11 AM

View PostSalutations, on 19 March 2013 - 04:59 AM, said:

I wonder how many ppl stopped the game because of this shitty honor gear, can't wait to see glad spots for this season.

i simply love you

#33 Cakesz

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Posted 19 March 2013 - 10:20 AM

View PostDreamwalkerx, on 18 March 2013 - 06:44 PM, said:

season 12 happened.
5.0 Warriors happened.

and yes, i get the irony

This has nothing to do with anything,

Every season is the same, something super dumb happens.

There has never been a season where there wasn't something extremely retarded. From S1 to now.

I'd say a huge reason why PvP is dying has to do with boosting and title selling, most legitimate players (who aren't capable of getting Glad easily) are quitting because they don't see any point in playing when they can't get higher because of people buying titles.

Those players aren't being replaced by new ones.

Edited by Cakesz, 19 March 2013 - 10:20 AM.


#34 fant0m8

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Posted 20 March 2013 - 03:38 AM

View PostCreepStatus, on 18 March 2013 - 11:35 PM, said:

There def wasn't that many glad slots in  BC, not in 3s at least... Maybe in 2s

Lol yes there were.

In 2's there were like 100-150 glad spots per BG.

Why? Because PVP weapons were just as good as PVE weapons for PVE, so tons of people did arena just to get PVP weapons to use in PVE.
Bye again! This game isn't fun when you don't know anyone else that still plays.

#35 Thaya

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Posted 20 March 2013 - 04:27 AM

Biggest reason PvP is dying is because there is nothing in PvP to attract new players.

Edited by Thaya, 24 March 2013 - 07:47 PM.

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#36 Nightmonkey

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Posted 20 March 2013 - 06:10 AM

View Postfant0m8, on 20 March 2013 - 03:38 AM, said:

Lol yes there were.

In 2's there were like 100-150 glad spots per BG.

Why? Because PVP weapons were just as good as PVE weapons for PVE, so tons of people did arena just to get PVP weapons to use in PVE.

I think you're probably on to something here, but then again in Wrath going forward PvP weapons weren't really better than their PvE equivalents.

If participation was way down because of RBG's, wouldn't we have seen the steep drop in Cataclysm instead of MoP?  It doesn't seem likely to me that it would take an entire expansion for people to realize RBGs are more rewarding.  I didn't play in Cata so maybe they weren't very rewarding back then.

There is a huge barrier to entry for anybody that wants to PvP now.  I think this is what making PvE gear not viable in arena has done to us.  You can't go into an arena with more than 2-3 PvE pieces on and expect to be competitive.  You really do need the full set, and this is exacerbated by the number of people that got T2 from RBGs getting stuck in the lower ratings.

I think they should experiment with making honor gear much quicker to farm, and adding more quests with PvP rewards.  I've actually really enjoyed the Isle of Thunder so far, it's a nice break from the monotony of arena PvP.  Perhaps they could try making the crafted gear stronger as well.

The drawback in Blizzard's eyes though is that once you remove the carrot on a stick, players feel like they have nothing to work towards, get bored, and quit the game.  I think they've gone to the extreme opposite though where there is simply too much to do in game, so smaller sections of the game such as arena really suffer in terms of participation.

This was especially bad in 5.0 when you had to do a billion dailies every day to keep raid leaders pleased.  After you finished the dailies you had to keep farming valor, then you actually had to do the raids, then if you had time you had to do LFR as well.  An average person doesn't have any time left for PvP after all of that, and PvE is way more popular in this game than PvP.

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Posted 20 March 2013 - 08:02 AM

The reason is mainly that RBGs are a huge hassle already and doing arena rewards pretty much nothing except some achievements or titles. RBGs give more titles, transmog gear, are way easier to play, require much less interface finetuning. You have to do RBGs pretty much and arena beyond the 2v2 capping is something additional without much of a reward.Secondly PvE gear doesn't help anymore unless you have pieces of final heroic bosses.

Yesterday I played with a druid that returned to WoW after many years, think he left around the midth of WotLK. The shear amount of macros and keybinds you need to play arena is high and the gear discrepancy is huge. He played at Duelist level some years ago but now he had so many new things to learn that I'm pretty sure he would have given up trying to play with randoms soon. Although everyone always says how WoW takes zero skill etc. - for returning (and even more for new) players the amount of time needed to be able to compete in arena is pretty huge. Unless you have someone that is patient and explains everything you are pretty much screwed.

#38 Smooviex

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Posted 20 March 2013 - 08:11 AM

balls xxxxxddd

Edited by Smooviex, 20 March 2013 - 08:12 AM.


#39 Hyuru

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Posted 20 March 2013 - 08:18 AM

View PostSmooviex, on 20 March 2013 - 08:11 AM, said:

:deathknight:   :priest: :shaman:

bout to make me quit this season

add :mage: to that list and you got me ;)

Edit: HA, too fast for you!

Edited by Hyuru, 20 March 2013 - 08:19 AM.


#40 charles34534534

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Posted 20 March 2013 - 08:37 AM

Blutdurst had top 175 glad in s3




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