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#41 Angelce

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Posted 18 March 2013 - 07:44 PM

I don't know what are you talking about,when I mean to stop,I mean stop arguing both of you,like wtf?

#42 Wallirik

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Posted 18 March 2013 - 07:59 PM

just to add to the discussion:

1 int is much better than 1 pvp power.
so if a heroic/thunderforged pve item gives 300 more int than the pvp item, instead of 300 pvp power, it's a big upgrade.

I'd imagine the same would go for 1str/1agi vs pvp power, but i haven't tried so dno.

#43 phunk

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Posted 18 March 2013 - 08:09 PM

View PostMattadoro, on 18 March 2013 - 05:42 PM, said:

at 25k conquest you unlock the 512 pieces but they all cost conq, it unlocks all the 493 for honor so you can buy any pieces you dont have yet with honor and upgrade them instantly with conquest

Are you sure about this? Because that would only make people save up all conquest points and buy all the 512 gear at once since the difference between the 493 isn't all that big from last seasons upgraded gear. Pretty stupid if you ask me.

Oh and a solution to how to make High end pve items bad in pve, make em give a dmg debuff on the user that reduces the dmg given to enemy players by X%

PS! Fun game last night Dakkroth!

Edited by phunk, 18 March 2013 - 08:12 PM.


#44 Pritchard

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Posted 18 March 2013 - 08:14 PM

View Postphunk, on 18 March 2013 - 08:09 PM, said:

Are you sure about this? Because that would only make people save up all conquest points and buy all the 512 gear at once since the difference between the 493 isn't all that big from last seasons upgraded gear. Pretty stupid if you ask me.

Oh and a solution to how to make High end pve items bad in pve, make em give a dmg debuff on the user that reduces the dmg given to enemy players by X%

PS! Fun game last night Dakkroth!

the conquest catch up mechanic will most likely be in for 5.3,and it counts all the weeks from 5.2 as well, so i would assume you can get 27k points or close to it on a character that hasn't played all season once 5.3 comes

#45 Braindance

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Posted 18 March 2013 - 08:15 PM

View Postphunk, on 18 March 2013 - 08:09 PM, said:

Are you sure about this? Because that would only make people save up all conquest points and buy all the 512 gear at once since the difference between the 493 isn't all that big from last seasons upgraded gear. Pretty stupid if you ask me.

Oh and a solution to how to make High end pve items bad in pve, make em give a dmg debuff on the user that reduces the dmg given to enemy players by X%

PS! Fun game last night Dakkroth!
No you can't save cause you have a 5k cap on your cp now.

View PostZerstiren, on 14 August 2011 - 01:21 AM, said:

If you haven't +repped this guy, you are part of the problem.

View PostRenaissance_Man, on 31 July 2013 - 04:31 AM, said:

If I had a gun with two bullets and I was in a room with Hitler, bin Laden, and you, I would shoot you twice.

View Postsimonfra1234, on 25 August 2011 - 08:46 PM, said:

bro you got +rep'd by rapture...

#46 phunk

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Posted 18 March 2013 - 08:58 PM

"the conquest catch up mechanic" what is this? I still can't see why people wouldn't just stack up their points untill they reach 27k


View PostBraindance, on 18 March 2013 - 08:15 PM, said:

No you can't save cause you have a 5k cap on your cp now.

I don't do RBGS

Edited by phunk, 18 March 2013 - 08:59 PM.


#47 Crawthz

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Posted 18 March 2013 - 08:59 PM

View Postphunk, on 18 March 2013 - 08:58 PM, said:

"the conquest catch up mechanic" what is this? I still can't see why people wouldn't just stack up their points untill they reach 27k

Because you have 5k cap, need to spend before you can earn.
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#48 phunk

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Posted 18 March 2013 - 09:01 PM

View PostCrawthz, on 18 March 2013 - 08:59 PM, said:

Because you have 5k cap, need to spend before you can earn.

oh...I though it was 5k cap for a WEEK not a maximum cap to how many points you could save up...stupid me :(

#49 Conradical

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Posted 18 March 2013 - 09:03 PM

yeah the PvE gear is going to be nuts. Rooftrellen is going to be running around with the 100% crit trinket.

At some point I'll have the 100% crit trinket and then maybe I'll global people! hurray!

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Posted 18 March 2013 - 09:05 PM

View Postphunk, on 18 March 2013 - 08:58 PM, said:

"the conquest catch up mechanic" what is this? I still can't see why people wouldn't just stack up their points untill they reach 27k




I don't do RBGS
?

View PostZerstiren, on 14 August 2011 - 01:21 AM, said:

If you haven't +repped this guy, you are part of the problem.

View PostRenaissance_Man, on 31 July 2013 - 04:31 AM, said:

If I had a gun with two bullets and I was in a room with Hitler, bin Laden, and you, I would shoot you twice.

View Postsimonfra1234, on 25 August 2011 - 08:46 PM, said:

bro you got +rep'd by rapture...

#51 Wallirik

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Posted 18 March 2013 - 09:19 PM

View PostConradical, on 18 March 2013 - 09:03 PM, said:

yeah the PvE gear is going to be nuts. Rooftrellen is going to be running around with the 100% crit trinket.

At some point I'll have the 100% crit trinket and then maybe I'll global people! hurray!
that trinket is like 1 proc per 4 minutes in a pvp setting (with the RPPM system and shit) :(
unfortunately makes it less fun

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Posted 18 March 2013 - 09:28 PM

View PostWallirik, on 18 March 2013 - 09:19 PM, said:

that trinket is like 1 proc per 4 minutes in a pvp setting (with the RPPM system and shit) :(
unfortunately makes it less fun

Do dots still work off your stats at the time you cast them? Like if you demonsoul->soulburn a whole team with that up do you keep the 100% crit on those dots for their duration?

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Posted 18 March 2013 - 09:41 PM

View PostRadejjj, on 18 March 2013 - 09:28 PM, said:

Do dots still work off your stats at the time you cast them? Like if you demonsoul->soulburn a whole team with that up do you keep the 100% crit on those dots for their duration?

ye they do, so when it procs just soulburn/soul swap whole team for immense damage for a good 20sec.
if you happen to have 3 soul shards when it randomly procs out of nowhere.

or as moonkin get few moonfires out for massive amount of starsurge procs, however you need to react very fast to the proc or it's just wasted since it only lasts 4sec. and as moonkin you'll only get ~3 moonfires off in the duration, so could easily dispel 2 of them off and pretty much wasting the proc.

if shit lines up as you want it to it's going to be fucking retarded, but it's kinda weird to play around a trinket that MIGHT proc in the next 5 minutes (at least that's how rare it's supposed to proc).

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Posted 19 March 2013 - 03:05 AM

if you play right you can still win without having all the best gear, in any expansion(other than warglaive 4/4 rogue which was godmode and could white swing priests down in S3)
Read below for examples:

WOTLK: Reckful got ~2800-3000 playing RLD in full pvp gear. He didnt have 100% ARP like litreocola who didnt break 2700.
Cata: Snuts Kollektiv and that random rogue got 2700 RLS in nothing but PVP gear to practice for NAO tourney which they also won. When everyone in the entire game was saying that rogues were op cuz of legends and vial. They had the best W/L on the Hardest BG and dominated everyone, with nothing but straight pvp gear.
Now: Dmg is so out of control that im trying to get the most resil possible, even if i could have the best pve gear, unless it was a trinket or a weapon, it wouldnt be worth it because we dont need anymore dmg to kill people, you just need to cross cc and swap correctly and it's a 100% kill everytime unless people have trinkets. Inbetween the swaps, the only goal is to live long enough to swap multiple times, I need MAX resil to do this and so does just about everyone else other than resto monks who are op and i hate them.

Obviously there are ridiculous trinkets and weapons that can break the game and I am no fan of those,  I had heroic vial and legendaries in S11 and it was the stupidest thing you could imagine.
But I have not seen any of those yet that look to be game breaking like Vial, unheeded, DFO, Phylac, DBW / leg weps. So far this expansion has done a good job of separating the gear from pve and pvp, the class balance and dmg balance could use a major overhaul and this patch helped a lot in my opinion, but I definitely feel that they have done a much better job of separating pve gear from pvp gear in this expac.

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Posted 19 March 2013 - 03:09 AM

View PostConradical, on 18 March 2013 - 09:03 PM, said:

yeah the PvE gear is going to be nuts. Rooftrellen is going to be running around with the 100% crit trinket.

At some point I'll have the 100% crit trinket and then maybe I'll global people! hurray!
it's awful, you'll never EVER get a chaos bolt off with it, if it even procs in the first place

Edited by Ahlaundoh, 19 March 2013 - 03:09 AM.

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Posted 19 March 2013 - 03:57 AM

rofl I hate europeans, they never wash their hair, they make ignorant threads like this, and all around filthy creatures

View PostCreepStatus, on 22 March 2013 - 05:04 PM, said:

nastyhabitz = hawtstuff?
definitely certified cunt
Got his bachelors in cuntology from illinois institute of cuntology

#57 Smooviex

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Posted 19 March 2013 - 04:53 AM

View PostNastyhabitz, on 19 March 2013 - 03:57 AM, said:

rofl I hate europeans, they never wash their hair, they make ignorant threads like this, and all around filthy creatures

quiet you smelly dyel virgin mirin nerd

#58 Shawir

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Posted 19 March 2013 - 04:56 AM

i don't remember you whining that much when you were rocking that hc cunning and that legendary staff

you imbecile

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Posted 19 March 2013 - 04:18 PM

PvE gear is not a problem lol and plus blizzard said theyll buff pvp gear if they see pve gear being used, plus who wants to raid every day of the week just to get a minimal gain? its not like cata i still fucking hate that cunning...




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