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#1 Dakkrothy

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Posted 18 March 2013 - 04:34 PM

So for some reason blizzard decided to add loads of gem slots to the PVE off pieces.

Items such as http://www.wowhead.com/item=96560 & http://www.wowhead.com/item=95018 are 100 times better than the pvp pieces.... The worst part is that you dont even lose any resilience if you just gem it with resi.


Something has to be done, ban all pvegear in arena b4 we see some proper pveheroes abusing this shit


why did the leap between pvegear become bigger to pvpgear anyway?





and can someone plix enlighten me how the 512 pvp pieces r gonna work out? Once you hit 27k points u get all 512 pieces or do you unlock them?

Heard something bout you being able to buy the rest of the gear with honor, or does that only apply to the 493 pieces?

Edited by Dakkrothy, 18 March 2013 - 04:36 PM.


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Posted 18 March 2013 - 04:35 PM

this thread is going to help
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#3 wtfbro

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Posted 18 March 2013 - 04:53 PM

u mad dogroth?

#4 Deeklol

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Posted 18 March 2013 - 05:06 PM

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#5 Skizzlol

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Posted 18 March 2013 - 05:22 PM

how many top pvpers are going to do heroic raids enough to get these items that give a marginal stat increase...who cares.

If its not a GFG weapon or a GFG trinket...it wont be game changing. No one ever won a game in WOTLK because they had wodin's neck.

Edited by Skizzlol, 18 March 2013 - 05:41 PM.


#6 AcerMVP

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Posted 18 March 2013 - 05:28 PM

I already got some sick PVE Trinket sup?

Mvposey, I'm coming for your R1 this season, Sup?

Edited by OhhiimMvp, 18 March 2013 - 05:29 PM.


#7 Deeklol

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Posted 18 March 2013 - 05:32 PM

View PostSkizzlol, on 18 March 2013 - 05:22 PM, said:

how many top pvpers are going to do heroic raids enough to get these items that give a marginal stat increase...who cares.

If its not a GFG weapon or a GFG trinket...it wont be game changing. No one ever won a game in WOTLK because they had wodin's neck.

The healing trinkets are quite game changing and I don't see them nerfing it
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#8 Skizzlol

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Posted 18 March 2013 - 05:40 PM

View PostDeeklol, on 18 March 2013 - 05:32 PM, said:

The healing trinkets are quite game changing and I don't see them nerfing it

Did u read what I said?

I bolded underlined the important part for you

Edited by Skizzlol, 18 March 2013 - 05:42 PM.


#9 Mattadoro

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Posted 18 March 2013 - 05:42 PM

at 25k conquest you unlock the 512 pieces but they all cost conq, it unlocks all the 493 for honor so you can buy any pieces you dont have yet with honor and upgrade them instantly with conquest
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#10 Dakkrothy

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Posted 18 March 2013 - 05:47 PM

View PostMattadoro, on 18 March 2013 - 05:42 PM, said:

at 25k conquest you unlock the 512 pieces but they all cost conq, it unlocks all the 493 for honor so you can buy any pieces you dont have yet with honor and upgrade them instantly with conquest

pretty sure its 27k, 25k is only for the achievement

#11 Nightmonkey

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Posted 18 March 2013 - 05:48 PM

View PostDeeklol, on 18 March 2013 - 05:32 PM, said:

The healing trinkets are quite game changing and I don't see them nerfing it

I thought they already lowered their chance to proc in PvP, or was that just the damage trinkets?

As far as the gear goes, I don't think we'll see many people with heroic and heroic thunderforged PvE gear changing their sockets to do PvP.  I could see a few doing it, but at this point switching from full PvP to all out PvE would be too difficult for the vast majority of arena players.

The funny thing is that if you gemmed the neck with 2 sockets with 1 pvp resil and 1 pvp power it would be a net gain of every stat including pvp power / resil.

#12 Dakkrothy

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Posted 18 March 2013 - 05:48 PM

View PostSkizzlol, on 18 March 2013 - 05:22 PM, said:

how many top pvpers are going to do heroic raids enough to get these items that give a marginal stat increase...who cares.

If its not a GFG weapon or a GFG trinket...it wont be game changing. No one ever won a game in WOTLK because they had wodin's neck.

even the normal pieces r way better tho, and they give roughly 500 stamina / piece extra, it could be gamebreaking if you access all the items


and lets be realistic, once pve items r viable in arena LOADS of pvpers PVE

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Posted 18 March 2013 - 05:57 PM

Good thing you have your fanboys then Dakkroth? Aren't you getting boosted by some top PvE guild each season anyway, so you can get 2set / 4set etc. all the time?

I won't be anywhere near any of these heroic items anyway, also they lack pvp power, not just resilience.

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Posted 18 March 2013 - 05:59 PM

View PostSkizzlol, on 18 March 2013 - 05:22 PM, said:

how many top pvpers are going to do heroic raids enough to get these items that give a marginal stat increase...who cares.

If its not a GFG weapon or a GFG trinket...it wont be game changing. No one ever won a game in WOTLK because they had wodin's neck.

yeah sure, but at wrath every rogue had pve belt, rings, neck, back, bracer and it did matters.

same for every other class, 1 piece is fine, being able to use all of then w/o losing a big amount of resi will be gamebreaking

blizzard should make the pvp gear a set (all gear, rings, necks, back, all ...) and give bonus based on that, lower resi/pvp power on each of then and give bonus that will put the resi in the normal amount again.


Edit. PVP power for healers is a bad joke.

Edited by dionim, 18 March 2013 - 05:59 PM.


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Posted 18 March 2013 - 06:02 PM

View PostDakkrothy, on 18 March 2013 - 05:47 PM, said:

pretty sure its 27k, 25k is only for the achievement

Think they lowered it from 27k to 25k a few weeks ago if I remember correctly
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Posted 18 March 2013 - 06:03 PM

View PostDakkrothy, on 18 March 2013 - 05:48 PM, said:

even the normal pieces r way better tho, and they give roughly 500 stamina / piece extra, it could be gamebreaking if you access all the items


and lets be realistic, once pve items r viable in arena LOADS of pvpers PVE
Yes and all of them will see heroic Lei Shen and Ra'den, because pvp players are notorious for their PvE prowess. Besides, 1 or 2 pve off pieces are not the end of the world - ok you get a bit more stats, but if you lose a game because of 500 more stamina, 200 int and spirit something is wrong with your gameplay not your gear.

View PostZerstiren, on 14 August 2011 - 01:21 AM, said:

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Posted 18 March 2013 - 06:06 PM

View PostMattadoro, on 18 March 2013 - 05:42 PM, said:

at 25k conquest you unlock the 512 pieces but they all cost conq, it unlocks all the 493 for honor so you can buy any pieces you dont have yet with honor and upgrade them instantly with conquest

So basically for anyone that decides to pvp mid-season, they are fuked since they need to accumulate 25k in order to buy the ilvl 512 gear. While everyone is running around in 512 gear, these latecomers are still working on their 493 tyrannical gear. So, how is this any different from last season lmao
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#18 Salutations

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Posted 18 March 2013 - 06:10 PM

If Blizzard don't make major changes to fix PvP, i guess everyone will just join AT cata as soon as bugs are fixed.

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Posted 18 March 2013 - 06:13 PM

View PostBraindance, on 18 March 2013 - 06:03 PM, said:

Yes and all of them will see heroic Lei Shen and Ra'den, because pvp players are notorious for their PvE prowess. Besides, 1 or 2 pve off pieces are not the end of the world - ok you get a bit more stats, but if you lose a game because of 500 more stamina, 200 int and spirit something is wrong with your gameplay not your gear.

if you want, you will see heroic bosses and stuff... as it is all what those instances requires from you.

and if you get 1 piece of pve gear, why would you stop there? you will probably ending up getting everything pve, and just gemming w/e you want to use in pvp.

i dont know if you played wrath, or even cata but every top pvp player had acess to top pve gear...

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Posted 18 March 2013 - 06:17 PM

View Postdionim, on 18 March 2013 - 06:13 PM, said:

if you want, you will see heroic bosses and stuff... as it is all what those instances requires from you.

and if you get 1 piece of pve gear, why would you stop there? you will probably ending up getting everything pve, and just gemming w/e you want to use in pvp.

i dont know if you played wrath, or even cata but every top pvp player had acess to top pve gear...
I've played both. There is no comparison between MoP and Wrath/Cata. Open your eyes and start adding numbers.

View PostZerstiren, on 14 August 2011 - 01:21 AM, said:

If you haven't +repped this guy, you are part of the problem.

View PostRenaissance_Man, on 31 July 2013 - 04:31 AM, said:

If I had a gun with two bullets and I was in a room with Hitler, bin Laden, and you, I would shoot you twice.

View Postsimonfra1234, on 25 August 2011 - 08:46 PM, said:

bro you got +rep'd by rapture...




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