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#1 Reirei

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Posted 15 March 2013 - 03:31 AM

While i understand monks needed to be competitive in pvp and all (which they actually were, wars were just better), i think RoP is just too powerfull considering that it not only disarms and silences the person, but also prevents them from using spells like blind, disarm etc.and is on short CD.

While maybe by itself it wasn't as powerfull as a spell, paired together with FoF which is untrikable and ranged paralysis which is only 15 sec CD and can't be cloak or dispelled (correct me here), ranged disarm etc. it is just  a bit too much of CCs that are either untrinkable or incredibly hard to counter.

I personally think RoP needs longer CD than 45 sec as it easily counters any kind of dps CDs which makes using them pointless.

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#2 Hyuru

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Posted 15 March 2013 - 07:53 AM

View PostReirei, on 15 March 2013 - 03:31 AM, said:

I personally think RoP needs longer CD than 45 sec as it easily counters any kind of dps CDs which makes using them pointless.

Thoughts?
The cooldown should be at least 2 minutes, and buff monks in some other way if it's needed. Ring of Peace is the most retarded ability they've added to this game in a long time.

Edited by Hyuru, 17 March 2013 - 01:29 PM.

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#3 Twocat

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Posted 15 March 2013 - 12:07 PM

nerf enhance purge because "It's not fair for weak specs to have OP abilities", give monks RoP. huehuehue double standards
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Posted 15 March 2013 - 12:42 PM

Should basically b on the same cd as solar beam/ vortex.

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Posted 15 March 2013 - 01:22 PM

I'm not having too much trouble with it to be honest.
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#6 Reirei

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Posted 16 March 2013 - 03:45 AM

View PostForumz, on 15 March 2013 - 01:22 PM, said:

I'm not having too much trouble with it to be honest.

what class do you play? try to outrun monk with rop on while while you are snared by undispellable debuff and monks rolls after you...yea~

not to mention that sometimes it bugs out and i can't even use vanish for w/e reason
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Posted 16 March 2013 - 11:33 AM

NEEDS to be 3-5mins atleast. Also this game is complete shit.
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Posted 16 March 2013 - 02:26 PM

this needs to effect only casters if anything... a warrior being silenced and not being able to H leap is complete bullshit imo

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Posted 16 March 2013 - 02:29 PM

View PostReirei, on 16 March 2013 - 03:45 AM, said:

what class do you play? try to outrun monk with rop on while while you are snared by undispellable debuff and monks rolls after you...yea~

not to mention that sometimes it bugs out and i can't even use vanish for w/e reason

DK and sometimes Priest. It's annoying and OP but not impossible to deal with.
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Posted 16 March 2013 - 04:01 PM

View PostForumz, on 16 March 2013 - 02:29 PM, said:

DK and sometimes Priest. It's annoying and OP but not impossible to deal with.
What tools do DK have to deal with RoP?
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#11 Reirei

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Posted 16 March 2013 - 04:22 PM

View PostForumz, on 16 March 2013 - 02:29 PM, said:

DK and sometimes Priest. It's annoying and OP but not impossible to deal with.

and how should one deal with RoP, please tell? i am a noob and know nothing of this game
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Posted 16 March 2013 - 06:04 PM

View PostReirei, on 16 March 2013 - 04:22 PM, said:

and how should one deal with RoP, please tell? i am a noob and know nothing of this game

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Posted 16 March 2013 - 06:17 PM

Teammates. Also you can use defensives before getting silenced as a DK, same goes for priest. I don't see the big deal. It's a great peel but sucks for creating pressure rly.

As far as I know the only melee that truly cannot deal with RoP right now is Warrior, 'cause they can't wall during the entire duration, nor can they leap or intervene while inside of it. The latter ones are bugs though.
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Posted 17 March 2013 - 09:10 PM

View PostMonkoli, on 16 March 2013 - 06:04 PM, said:

Run

try to outrun monk while having hamstring on you + monk moblity is by far superior to rogues'

View PostForumz, on 16 March 2013 - 06:17 PM, said:

Teammates. Also you can use defensives before getting silenced as a DK, same goes for priest. I don't see the big deal. It's a great peel but sucks for creating pressure rly.

As far as I know the only melee that truly cannot deal with RoP right now is Warrior, 'cause they can't wall during the entire duration, nor can they leap or intervene while inside of it. The latter ones are bugs though.

aoe deathgrip in RBGs into RoP works way too good and you can't even dispell it like grip ->RoF or at least have melee being able to do something like in vortex/beam

i done quite few RBGs this week, we had healer monk, with mandatory DK + boomie, take a guess what happend after aoe grip -> vortex + rop on dk?

the issue as i stated is the CD on the spell, it is way too short and nullifies any attempt to do any dmg to opposite team

i also think it is complete BS that you can't use spells like disarm or blind while in it, even though the tooltipp states it disarms and silences target, however blind, disarm and some other spells can be used while silenced/disarmed under normal circumstances but not in RoP
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Posted 18 March 2013 - 10:12 AM

I don't really see why vortex+RoP is different from vortex+beam, other than the  fact that you can still actually use defensives while in RoP as a dk or caster. I rather get RoP'd than beamed.

PS: RoP pacifies as well. Which means you can't use any offensive physical abilities.
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Posted 18 March 2013 - 11:26 AM

all the game needed was another overpowerd ability. Now its spot on perfect, and its so easy to outrun.























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Posted 18 March 2013 - 12:36 PM

View PostForumz, on 18 March 2013 - 10:12 AM, said:

PS: RoP pacifies as well. Which means you can't use any physical abilities.

There. It's fixed now. It's basically and aoe BoP on the enemy melees.

Edited by Cyanne, 18 March 2013 - 12:39 PM.


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Posted 18 March 2013 - 04:57 PM

View PostForumz, on 18 March 2013 - 10:12 AM, said:

I don't really see why vortex+RoP is different from vortex+beam, other than the  fact that you can still actually use defensives while in RoP as a dk or caster. I rather get RoP'd than beamed.

PS: RoP pacifies as well. Which means you can't use any offensive physical abilities.

you can use melee attacks and many other spells in beam (blind, disarm, etc.,), can't use anything in RoP
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Posted 26 March 2013 - 05:51 PM

View PostReirei, on 16 March 2013 - 03:45 AM, said:

what class do you play? try to outrun monk with rop on while while you are snared by undispellable debuff and monks rolls after you...yea~

not to mention that sometimes it bugs out and i can't even use vanish for w/e reason

HAHAH yeah I play a rogue and have the same issue with it ROP Blows ass and needs to just leave the game Id rather them get another stun or a pally bubble then that ROP BS

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Posted 29 March 2013 - 03:48 AM

View PostReirei, on 17 March 2013 - 09:10 PM, said:

try to outrun monk while having hamstring on you + monk moblity is by far superior to rogues'


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