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#1 Azerdawg

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Posted 14 March 2013 - 01:38 PM

Last season there was a post in which people calculated which parts they would buy first to get the max stat gains.

Anyone interested in some mad karma gains and posting it on here?

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Edited by Azerdawg, 14 March 2013 - 01:44 PM.


#2 Alemecia

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Posted 14 March 2013 - 02:54 PM

Seems to be normalized across the gear by item cost with the exception of trinkets. Maybe I'm wrong but every 1750 item offered me the same number of stat gains over honor gear.

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Posted 17 March 2013 - 07:20 AM

I have no clue what stats to you choose this season, but haste and mastery seems good after the buffs, more frequent CS etc. I was told warriors benefit more from it on PTR at least.

Edited by Häxantutto, 17 March 2013 - 07:21 AM.

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#4 Braindance

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Posted 17 March 2013 - 07:23 AM

Crit>haste>mastery for pvp gear. Take haste+mastery pieces instead of expertise crit.

View Postjustchecking, on 10 November 2014 - 11:58 PM, said:

Going to blizzcon looking for a fight is like going to the official wow arena forums for pvp advice :)

View PostRenaissance_Man, on 31 July 2013 - 04:31 AM, said:

If I had a gun with two bullets and I was in a room with Hitler, bin Laden, and you, I would shoot you twice.

View Postsimonfra1234, on 25 August 2011 - 08:46 PM, said:

bro you got +rep'd by rapture...

#5 Ginostylez

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Posted 28 March 2013 - 09:36 PM

someone should make a chardev of what they think will be best for warriors by season end!

with reforge/enchants/gems/ and all

MASTERY REFORGE VS HASTE??? :confused: :eek:

pls n ty

#6 Braindance

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Posted 28 March 2013 - 09:40 PM

View PostGinostylez, on 28 March 2013 - 09:36 PM, said:

someone should make a chardev of what they think will be best for warriors by season end!

with reforge/enchants/gems/ and all

MASTERY REFORGE VS HASTE??? :confused: :eek:

pls n ty
Haste>mastery because you gain more % per point compared to the (already high) base mastery. And let me guess; ur greek

View Postjustchecking, on 10 November 2014 - 11:58 PM, said:

Going to blizzcon looking for a fight is like going to the official wow arena forums for pvp advice :)

View PostRenaissance_Man, on 31 July 2013 - 04:31 AM, said:

If I had a gun with two bullets and I was in a room with Hitler, bin Laden, and you, I would shoot you twice.

View Postsimonfra1234, on 25 August 2011 - 08:46 PM, said:

bro you got +rep'd by rapture...

#7 Afantara

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Posted 28 March 2013 - 09:46 PM

I understand the haste logic in haste vs mastery, but is there any math relating to the curves of which one overrules the other or is this still just assumption?

#8 Braindance

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Posted 28 March 2013 - 09:55 PM

View PostSnugglebuu, on 28 March 2013 - 09:46 PM, said:

I understand the haste logic in haste vs mastery, but is there any math relating to the curves of which one overrules the other or is this still just assumption?
I've run sims both with my current gear and with bis s13. Haste is higher than mastery.

View Postjustchecking, on 10 November 2014 - 11:58 PM, said:

Going to blizzcon looking for a fight is like going to the official wow arena forums for pvp advice :)

View PostRenaissance_Man, on 31 July 2013 - 04:31 AM, said:

If I had a gun with two bullets and I was in a room with Hitler, bin Laden, and you, I would shoot you twice.

View Postsimonfra1234, on 25 August 2011 - 08:46 PM, said:

bro you got +rep'd by rapture...

#9 Ginostylez

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Posted 28 March 2013 - 10:02 PM

View PostBraindance, on 28 March 2013 - 09:40 PM, said:

Haste>mastery because you gain more % per point compared to the (already high) base mastery. And let me guess; ur greek

haha yes i am xD

BTW, is there a specific % of each we should aim for though?
like:
expertise %, hit %, haste%, mastery %, crit %

as far as I know it's 5% expertise, 3% hit,

and for the rest should we just excluse mastery all together, or only up to a certain haste %?
and crit is good no matter what %, any chance to gain crit = good ya?

also for the offpieces, boots, neck, cape, which ones? i usually go with cruelty, proficiency, prowess

haste always felt like a DK stat which is why all of this is odd to me!

thanks

the cruelty boots finally match the warrior set and to have to go alac would be poopy lmao XD

#10 Braindance

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Posted 28 March 2013 - 10:07 PM

View PostGinostylez, on 28 March 2013 - 10:02 PM, said:

haha yes i am xD

BTW, is there a specific % of each we should aim for though?
like:
expertise %, hit %, haste%, mastery %, crit %

as far as I know it's 5% expertise, 3% hit,

and for the rest should we just excluse mastery all together, or only up to a certain haste %?
and crit is good no matter what %, any chance to gain crit = good ya?

also for the offpieces, boots, neck, cape, which ones? i usually go with cruelty, proficiency, prowess

haste always felt like a DK stat which is why all of this is odd to me!

thanks

the cruelty boots finally match the warrior set and to have to go alac would be poopy lmao XD
After various experiments I feel most comfortable with about 17% crit and 14% haste. If we didn't die so fast I would have gone full haste because you can get almost 30% haste is bis gear while still having around 16% crit.

And dump all expertise - replace expertise pieces with haste or mastery counterparts.

View Postjustchecking, on 10 November 2014 - 11:58 PM, said:

Going to blizzcon looking for a fight is like going to the official wow arena forums for pvp advice :)

View PostRenaissance_Man, on 31 July 2013 - 04:31 AM, said:

If I had a gun with two bullets and I was in a room with Hitler, bin Laden, and you, I would shoot you twice.

View Postsimonfra1234, on 25 August 2011 - 08:46 PM, said:

bro you got +rep'd by rapture...

#11 Ginostylez

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Posted 28 March 2013 - 10:12 PM

alright so how much expertise then, and hit? :o

#12 Braindance

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Posted 28 March 2013 - 10:36 PM

View PostGinostylez, on 28 March 2013 - 10:12 PM, said:

alright so how much expertise then, and hit? :o
3% hit and I don't care bout expertise anymore since we have no throwdown and overpowers are plenty.

View Postjustchecking, on 10 November 2014 - 11:58 PM, said:

Going to blizzcon looking for a fight is like going to the official wow arena forums for pvp advice :)

View PostRenaissance_Man, on 31 July 2013 - 04:31 AM, said:

If I had a gun with two bullets and I was in a room with Hitler, bin Laden, and you, I would shoot you twice.

View Postsimonfra1234, on 25 August 2011 - 08:46 PM, said:

bro you got +rep'd by rapture...

#13 Afantara

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Posted 29 March 2013 - 12:04 AM

View PostBraindance, on 28 March 2013 - 09:55 PM, said:

I've run sims both with my current gear and with bis s13. Haste is higher than mastery.

By chance, you have any spreadsheets? I'd like to test this out.

#14 Braindance

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Posted 29 March 2013 - 12:09 AM

View PostSnugglebuu, on 29 March 2013 - 12:04 AM, said:

By chance, you have any spreadsheets? I'd like to test this out.
Spreadsheets no. I run my own modified version of simcraft

View Postjustchecking, on 10 November 2014 - 11:58 PM, said:

Going to blizzcon looking for a fight is like going to the official wow arena forums for pvp advice :)

View PostRenaissance_Man, on 31 July 2013 - 04:31 AM, said:

If I had a gun with two bullets and I was in a room with Hitler, bin Laden, and you, I would shoot you twice.

View Postsimonfra1234, on 25 August 2011 - 08:46 PM, said:

bro you got +rep'd by rapture...

#15 Drizlet

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Posted 29 March 2013 - 12:20 AM

yeah =p

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Posted 29 March 2013 - 05:48 AM

bands make her dance

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Posted 29 March 2013 - 05:59 AM

make sure to get all main pieces before you hit 27kSeason Earned since you will need then for buying the elite gear.




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