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Posted 12 March 2013 - 10:13 PM

View PostDarthgnoe, on 12 March 2013 - 10:11 PM, said:

holinka said it's a pve change only

keep reading what he said.

@holinka Also, does this mean more abilities will be tuned separate from PVE and PVP? This is the model we want you to adapt for all classes

@glider96 No it does not

@frigidclam @glider96 Not going to add (but does X% less/more damage against players) to all spells. Want 1 world as much as possible

Edited by Radejjj, 12 March 2013 - 10:15 PM.


#62 amirdaheat

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Posted 12 March 2013 - 10:15 PM

I dont get it, arcane and frost were the #1 and #2 DPS spec that pulled the most dps by far, why buff?
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#63 Thugjitsu

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Posted 12 March 2013 - 10:17 PM

View PostShizz, on 12 March 2013 - 07:59 PM, said:

LOL at everyone freaking out before day 1.  So much mage hate, yes this is drastic but its ok that rogues can shit on you and not use one melee attack and DK dmg got buffed for some god awful reason.  It will get fixed but its great seeing all the warriors cry cuz after last season nobody gives a shit. Good luck getting F bombs off against roge/pmonk rogue/DK etc anyways, gratned tempest got buffed too but who wants to play that horrid playstyle anymore anyways.

View Postvenruki, on 12 March 2013 - 08:01 PM, said:

if you're defending this change... yikes

anyways, changes like this almost guarantee nerfs in other areas. mage damage is fine in pvp, I hope to god this change gets reverted.

MAGE OVERLORD SCOLDING MAGE PEON.  MY WARRIOR TEARS HAVE DRIED :duckers:

Edited by Thugjitsu, 12 March 2013 - 10:19 PM.

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#64 Braindance

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Posted 12 March 2013 - 10:19 PM

Waiting for restart

View PostZerstiren, on 14 August 2011 - 01:21 AM, said:

If you haven't +repped this guy, you are part of the problem.

View PostRenaissance_Man, on 31 July 2013 - 04:31 AM, said:

If I had a gun with two bullets and I was in a room with Hitler, bin Laden, and you, I would shoot you twice.

View Postsimonfra1234, on 25 August 2011 - 08:46 PM, said:

bro you got +rep'd by rapture...

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Posted 12 March 2013 - 10:20 PM

NVM :)

Edited by Friedkitteh, 12 March 2013 - 10:21 PM.


#66 Forseti

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Posted 12 March 2013 - 10:21 PM

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#67 Darthgnoe

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Posted 12 March 2013 - 10:24 PM

View PostRadejjj, on 12 March 2013 - 10:13 PM, said:

keep reading what he said.

@holinka Also, does this mean more abilities will be tuned separate from PVE and PVP? This is the model we want you to adapt for all classes

@glider96 No it does not

@frigidclam @glider96 Not going to add (but does X% less/more damage against players) to all spells. Want 1 world as much as possible

so? still means it will be done like that for this change which is what matters

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Posted 12 March 2013 - 10:31 PM

I read that as there may be other changes to mages to offset this one, but frostbomb will be the same in pve/pvp, not sure though, worded weird

Edited by Radejjj, 12 March 2013 - 10:47 PM.


#69 Darthgnoe

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Posted 12 March 2013 - 10:57 PM

seems pretty clear to me tbh,not going to add to all spells,want 1 world as much as possible.

meaning we are doing it now, but we usually prefer not to

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Posted 13 March 2013 - 12:33 AM

unless bombs are supposed to be critting for 140k+ right now, it's definitely live still.

#71 Tarukimo

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Posted 13 March 2013 - 12:58 AM

They did change coefficients, frost bomb now deals 60% dmg vs players as opposed to 80%, so the overall effect is:

pre buff: 1.0*.8=.80
Post buff: 1.0*1.4*.6=.84
So overall this is a
.84/.8= 5% buff to pvp damage (for frost bomb)

Still silly

#72 Pritchard

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Posted 13 March 2013 - 01:02 AM

i honestly wish frost bomb was nerfed even more for pvp, i think it still hits too hard, any time i get stuck in a frost bomb deep on any of my chars with  no cd's and an orb on me im pretty much dead

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Posted 13 March 2013 - 01:03 AM

NOT A PVP BUFF, WILL NOT AFFECT PVP HE SAID

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Posted 13 March 2013 - 01:07 AM

Frost bomb is buffed 4% for PvP herpderp.

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Posted 13 March 2013 - 01:33 AM

NT gets 40% better though?  crazytown

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Posted 13 March 2013 - 01:40 AM

View PostClaynz, on 13 March 2013 - 01:07 AM, said:

Frost bomb is buffed 4% for PvP herpderp.
derp 5%

and if u actually complain about that over some of the other stuff then i dont know what to say

View PostPouncedd, on 12 June 2014 - 01:51 AM, said:

Feel free to call me an idiot because I'm a hunter or some stupid ass remark but I've actually written all this down on paper and have looked at the numbers comparatively for almost every class

View PostJontex, on 23 June 2014 - 04:48 PM, said:

I actually made an appearance at DH2014 and I met up with people from twitch who were involved with the dota 2 / cs tournies that where there, I talked about the game from my perspective as a professional player and we actually shared a lot of opinions. All I'm saying is a lot of people will be VERY surprised about the future of this game in the esport world :)

#77 Ballerjones

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Posted 13 March 2013 - 01:59 AM

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#78 Claynz

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Posted 13 March 2013 - 02:59 AM

View PostDizzeeyo, on 13 March 2013 - 01:40 AM, said:

derp 5%

and if u actually complain about that over some of the other stuff then i dont know what to say


Did i complain? :o where.

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Posted 13 March 2013 - 04:38 AM

4% buff, retards going apeshit rofl

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Posted 13 March 2013 - 06:13 AM

Gives mages good frostbolt, take away bomb, gg.




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