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#81 kannetixx

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Posted 12 March 2013 - 02:17 AM

30 second anything is pretty stupid in terms of pvp ...

even 8-10 seconds is pretty much pushing it especially for how long you can keep someone out of the game when trinket is down.

i wish they could some how implement blood line champion style game play in a way but then again two totally different styles of game play.
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#82 Phillol

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Posted 13 March 2013 - 02:59 AM

glad you're happy you got it nerfed

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Posted 13 March 2013 - 04:24 AM

Looks like most people forgot UF is suposed to be a damage buff, not a CC immunity. Should just remove the self-damaging part of it.

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Posted 13 March 2013 - 04:45 AM

I'm assuming the damage was originally supposed to be a negative side effect to using the ability.  The fact that it ended up breaking CC was a fun oversight by Blizz that wasn't game breaking and added skill to the class, so they kept it.  Just hope it doesn't get changed to increase dmg taken instead of DoT.

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Posted 13 March 2013 - 06:10 AM

View PostTuskx, on 13 March 2013 - 04:45 AM, said:

I'm assuming the damage was originally supposed to be a negative side effect to using the ability.

Quite sure the damage was actually kept there because of the fact unholy frenzy in Warcraft 3 did dmg to the mob using it. They probably just decided to keep that factor in for the vanity of it.
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Posted 13 March 2013 - 04:05 PM

Now its nerfed, instead of being fixed, so now we need sheep on cooldown like 20 sec, since apparently it was really hurting strongest class mages...... lol

Love how rank 1 mage went nuts about this ability, i guess not able to completely cc healer for 20 sec while shattering dps is so depressing.

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Posted 13 March 2013 - 04:20 PM

View PostVirent, on 13 March 2013 - 06:10 AM, said:

Quite sure the damage was actually kept there because of the fact unholy frenzy in Warcraft 3 did dmg to the mob using it. They probably just decided to keep that factor in for the vanity of it.

Ahhh that makes a lot of sense then.  I just read Holinka's tweet on it and that's 100% what it was still in for.

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Posted 13 March 2013 - 07:07 PM

View Posta1entity, on 13 March 2013 - 04:05 PM, said:

Now its nerfed, instead of being fixed, so now we need sheep on cooldown like 20 sec, since apparently it was really hurting strongest class mages...... lol

Love how rank 1 mage went nuts about this ability, i guess not able to completely cc healer for 20 sec while shattering dps is so depressing.

At the same time, between UF, Bubble and Aura Mastery, a pally could freecast for what, 42 seconds? Agains't PHD or TSG, GL pressuring either of those teams as a caster with their healer free casting at the back, felt a little over the top.

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Posted 15 March 2013 - 06:27 AM

Thank god. 30 seconds of no CC is fucking retarded.
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Posted 15 March 2013 - 08:37 AM

still not hotfixed in EU

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Posted 15 March 2013 - 10:00 AM

View Posta1entity, on 13 March 2013 - 04:05 PM, said:

Love how rank 1 mage went nuts about this ability, i guess not able to completely cc healer for 20 sec while shattering dps is so depressing.
Did you even read the tweet? Bludz specificly asked for it to become dispellable with shiv etc like it used to be before, not to be completely useless.

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Posted 15 March 2013 - 10:08 AM

It should be an enrage, but whatever.

#93 Phillol

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Posted 15 March 2013 - 03:29 PM

View Postfant0m8, on 15 March 2013 - 06:27 AM, said:

Thank god. 30 seconds of no CC is fucking retarded.
but 30 seconds of CC isnt?

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Posted 15 March 2013 - 03:40 PM

View PostHyuru, on 15 March 2013 - 10:00 AM, said:

Did you even read the tweet? Bludz specificly asked for it to become dispellable with shiv etc like it used to be before, not to be completely useless.

First sentence he's asking why it gives 30 sec immunity, instead saying please fix it to be back to enrage. Now, in reality despite what he wrote, Holinka should've researched a bit more about this ability and Dk's in general and revered back to enrage but since he doesn't play the game as GC he made whatever it is now.

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Posted 15 March 2013 - 03:51 PM

View PostGrieverZ, on 13 March 2013 - 07:07 PM, said:

At the same time, between UF, Bubble and Aura Mastery, a pally could freecast for what, 42 seconds? Agains't PHD or TSG, GL pressuring either of those teams as a caster with their healer free casting at the back, felt a little over the top.
You forgetting the part where in one swap casters cleave able to take down that pally while cc'ing dps that don't have immunity. Also you saying like casters have nothing else but cc that breaks on damage ? Silence during UF, stun during UF, cyclone during UF ?

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Posted 15 March 2013 - 04:37 PM

warriors - keep OP abilities an entire season
dk - nerfed after 1 day

fuck you all :(

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Posted 15 March 2013 - 05:05 PM

still breaking CC on US.
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Posted 16 March 2013 - 12:30 PM

Call me crazy but hasn't "unholy frenzy" been in the game since dks were released just previously called hysteria, so why the hell is it op now?Also having the exact same 1% health loss side effect, and the only other change since was it isn't a 25%. Dmg buff like it was in wrath. Inb4 it takes a lot of skill to bait a dk to put it on someone then press shiv. And also have you thought of perhaps swapping onto the healer if you have no rogue to pressure him to take it off?  Either way I guess logically if should be fair to counter it so keeping it as an enrage was fine or just lower the duration of it

Edited by Bamflol, 16 March 2013 - 12:32 PM.


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Posted 16 March 2013 - 10:25 PM

View PostPhillol, on 15 March 2013 - 03:29 PM, said:

but 30 seconds of CC isnt?

Nothing in this game can CC you for 30 seconds without the possiblity of a counter. Unholy Frenzy breaks CC for 30 seconds with no counter.
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Posted 16 March 2013 - 11:19 PM

View Postfant0m8, on 16 March 2013 - 10:25 PM, said:

Nothing in this game can CC you for 30 seconds without the possiblity of a counter. Unholy Frenzy breaks CC for 30 seconds with no counter.

you are acting like it breaks every cc in the game... i understand you're biased since you are a hunter and god forbid something counters your 20 second insta-cc chains, but in the scheme of things frenzy wasnt even remotely close to being the most op thing in the game (not even OP in my opinion - 3 minute cooldown)... but yet since some mage cries about it gets nerfed 1 day into the season to the point where its complete dog shit and only used as a damage buff now zzzz




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