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#141 ardnut

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Posted 25 March 2013 - 11:15 AM

I'm not used to getting a T2 weapon as last season was my first time... but is it typical that warriors suck before getting the T2 then do better after they get T2?  Because looking at the ladders on EU Cyclone there is no warriors above 2.2... highest is 2102.

On US Bloodlust warriors seem to be doing better though.
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Posted 25 March 2013 - 11:40 AM

View Postardnut, on 25 March 2013 - 11:15 AM, said:

I'm not used to getting a T2 weapon as last season was my first time... but is it typical that warriors suck before getting the T2 then do better after they get T2?  Because looking at the ladders on EU Cyclone there is no warriors above 2.2... highest is 2102.

On US Bloodlust warriors seem to be doing better though.

warriors are actually not bad, play smart, play shaman kfc.  cash. money. business.
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Posted 25 March 2013 - 12:40 PM

View Postkazuhmeer, on 25 March 2013 - 08:21 AM, said:

Yeah I've had a really easy time until I run into 2.3k+ teams with a brain, if I ever trinket something I'm dead.
cuz thats how its supposed to be???? dont trinket randomly or without thinking next  time just like every other class.

Edited by Yarmyxx, 25 March 2013 - 12:41 PM.


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Posted 25 March 2013 - 03:50 PM

View PostYarmyxx, on 25 March 2013 - 12:40 PM, said:

cuz thats how its supposed to be???? dont trinket randomly or without thinking next  time just like every other class.

This isn't the case. Every team with a possible reset (rogue,mage,hunter,warlock,druid...basically every class) Just rides you to the ground with instant cc on your healer, and then you trinket, they reset, and then re-open, and you're dead.

We have absolutely no cooldowns to use this patch for surviving. Our 5 min cooldown does nothing, and our other defensive cd (dbts) is awful against anything that stuns, or casters.
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Posted 25 March 2013 - 04:30 PM

6 out of top 18 teams in my bg(Rampage eu, one of the most active bgs, 2nd in glad numbers etc) have a warrior. I think if 1/3 of the top ladder can do it, you guys can do it too. This is the good news, bad news is; almost all of them are caster/warrior/healer, so it requires you to know what's happening arena and win by playing good, which kinda contradicts with the reason the majority of people rolled a warrior, the class allowing countless mistakes to be made and having complete disregard to every single player in arena except the one that is tunneled, get outplayed but still win via unhealable damage.

Edited by Djandawg, 25 March 2013 - 08:31 PM.


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Posted 25 March 2013 - 08:20 PM

I just feel like a wheelchair DK. Same dmg (-the aoe aids) but taking more dmg and less utility.

Edited by Pinka, 25 March 2013 - 08:24 PM.

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Posted 25 March 2013 - 09:10 PM

View PostYarmyxx, on 25 March 2013 - 12:40 PM, said:

cuz thats how its supposed to be???? dont trinket randomly or without thinking next  time just like every other class.

People like you are why this community sucks.  On my mage in pathetic honor gear I'm 2.2k with a retarded ratio, because my defensives actually do something.  On my warrior against good rps teams, I get stunlocked through die by the sword, then die in a cheapshot/bomb later on before I can pop shieldwall.

Anyone else think its hilarious if rogues glyph cloak they get shieldwall, which is our 5 minute cd?  Cool game.

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Posted 25 March 2013 - 09:40 PM

View PostDjandawg, on 25 March 2013 - 04:30 PM, said:

6 out of top 18 teams in my bg(Rampage eu, one of the most active bgs, 2nd in glad numbers etc) have a warrior. I think if 1/3 of the top ladder can do it, you guys can do it too. This is the good news, bad news is; almost all of them are caster/warrior/healer, so it requires you to know what's happening arena and win by playing good, which kinda contradicts with the reason the majority of people rolled a warrior, the class allowing countless mistakes to be made and having complete disregard to every single player in arena except the one that is tunneled, get outplayed but still win via unhealable damage.

kfc is still good :duckers:

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Posted 25 March 2013 - 09:59 PM

Can non warriors stop posting shit on my forums please?

Thanks in advance.

View PostZerstiren, on 14 August 2011 - 01:21 AM, said:

If you haven't +repped this guy, you are part of the problem.

View PostRenaissance_Man, on 31 July 2013 - 04:31 AM, said:

If I had a gun with two bullets and I was in a room with Hitler, bin Laden, and you, I would shoot you twice.

View Postsimonfra1234, on 25 August 2011 - 08:46 PM, said:

bro you got +rep'd by rapture...

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Posted 25 March 2013 - 10:56 PM

LF guide how to survive god comp's swap (every derp freeze)

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Posted 25 March 2013 - 11:20 PM

View PostMoshe, on 25 March 2013 - 10:56 PM, said:

LF guide how to survive god comp's swap (every derp freeze)

Enraged regen is all I can help you with i'm afraid

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Posted 25 March 2013 - 11:42 PM

Warrior (Forums, Talent Calculator)
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Edited by Environ, 25 March 2013 - 11:58 PM.


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Posted 26 March 2013 - 12:27 AM

View PostDjandawg, on 25 March 2013 - 04:30 PM, said:

6 out of top 18 teams in my bg(Rampage eu, one of the most active bgs, 2nd in glad numbers etc) have a warrior. I think if 1/3 of the top ladder can do it, you guys can do it too. This is the good news, bad news is; almost all of them are caster/warrior/healer, so it requires you to know what's happening arena and win by playing good, which kinda contradicts with the reason the majority of people rolled a warrior, the class allowing countless mistakes to be made and having complete disregard to every single player in arena except the one that is tunneled, get outplayed but still win via unhealable damage.

+rep

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Posted 26 March 2013 - 12:34 AM

View PostDjandawg, on 25 March 2013 - 04:30 PM, said:

6 out of top 18 teams in my bg(Rampage eu, one of the most active bgs, 2nd in glad numbers etc) have a warrior. I think if 1/3 of the top ladder can do it, you guys can do it too. This is the good news, bad news is; almost all of them are caster/warrior/healer, so it requires you to know what's happening arena and win by playing good, which kinda contradicts with the reason the majority of people rolled a warrior, the class allowing countless mistakes to be made and having complete disregard to every single player in arena except the one that is tunneled, get outplayed but still win via unhealable damage.
Perhaps cause your battlegroup is shit cause in Misery there isn't a single warrior in the first page and in Cyclone there are 3 starting from rank 27. Warriors are okish but don't post such biased bullshit please.

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View PostZerstiren, on 14 August 2011 - 01:21 AM, said:

If you haven't +repped this guy, you are part of the problem.

View PostRenaissance_Man, on 31 July 2013 - 04:31 AM, said:

If I had a gun with two bullets and I was in a room with Hitler, bin Laden, and you, I would shoot you twice.

View Postsimonfra1234, on 25 August 2011 - 08:46 PM, said:

bro you got +rep'd by rapture...

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Posted 26 March 2013 - 01:14 AM

View PostDjandawg, on 25 March 2013 - 04:30 PM, said:

6 out of top 18 teams in my bg(Rampage eu, one of the most active bgs, 2nd in glad numbers etc) have a warrior. I think if 1/3 of the top ladder can do it, you guys can do it too. This is the good news, bad news is; almost all of them are caster/warrior/healer, so it requires you to know what's happening arena and win by playing good, which kinda contradicts with the reason the majority of people rolled a warrior, the class allowing countless mistakes to be made and having complete disregard to every single player in arena except the one that is tunneled, get outplayed but still win via unhealable damage.

Stopped reading after this.
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Posted 26 March 2013 - 01:14 AM

How about you manage to read and process? I said it's one of the most populated bgs in eu, which is valid, second in glad numbers , which is also valid.  Rampage is far away from being a shit bg, it is in fact one of the best bgs, according to s12 calculator misery had 24, rampage had 23, cyclone had 21 glad spots. Which bg is the best/hardest is another discussion but it is obvious that rampage is decent enough to be used as an example.
Also note that, it's likely that someone people who complain in this thread about warrior being trash/unplayable, play on easier bgs. So if people can succeed here, it should not be mission impossible to succeed elsewhere, hence no bias, just facts and elementary school deduction.

Edited by Djandawg, 26 March 2013 - 01:16 AM.


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Posted 26 March 2013 - 01:31 AM

View PostDjandawg, on 26 March 2013 - 01:14 AM, said:

How about you manage to read and process? I said it's one of the most populated bgs in eu, which is valid, second in glad numbers , which is also valid.  Rampage is far away from being a shit bg, it is in fact one of the best bgs, according to s12 calculator misery had 24, rampage had 23, cyclone had 21 glad spots. Which bg is the best/hardest is another discussion but it is obvious that rampage is decent enough to be used as an example.
Also note that, it's likely that someone people who complain in this thread about warrior being trash/unplayable, play on easier bgs. So if people can succeed here, it should not be mission impossible to succeed elsewhere, hence no bias, just facts and elementary school deduction.
And that's why I said warriors are okish. Warriors are perfect if no one is hitting them and the worst melee by far if trained. 60% of my games I have to kite the other team for 90% of the game until my partner can line up a kill almost by himself. Dks have 232143 immunities  and can keep pumping damage even if trained in blood presence; rogues have the best defensive cooldown in the game (cloak) and feint and can take a beating easily especially vs caster teams - shuriken now also allows them to do damage from range; rets, ferals, etc you know. Right now we are the only class without any ranged attack, the only class that it's best defensive cd is a 5 minute cooldown with 40% reduction (with a shield as a prerequisite).

Tl;dr warriors are completely fine, BUT, they need a small defensive buff (in the form of a 1 minute cooldown for example).

View PostZerstiren, on 14 August 2011 - 01:21 AM, said:

If you haven't +repped this guy, you are part of the problem.

View PostRenaissance_Man, on 31 July 2013 - 04:31 AM, said:

If I had a gun with two bullets and I was in a room with Hitler, bin Laden, and you, I would shoot you twice.

View Postsimonfra1234, on 25 August 2011 - 08:46 PM, said:

bro you got +rep'd by rapture...

#158 Usingg

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Posted 26 March 2013 - 01:56 AM

View PostBraindance, on 26 March 2013 - 01:31 AM, said:

Tl;dr warriors are completely fine, BUT, they need a small defensive buff (in the form of a 1 minute cooldown for example).

Make wall 90%, and make it a 3 min cd,

e/ and useable while 2h disarmed.

Edited by Usingg, 26 March 2013 - 01:57 AM.

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Posted 26 March 2013 - 01:57 AM

View PostUsingg, on 26 March 2013 - 01:56 AM, said:

Make wall 90%, and make it a 3 min cd,
That is too much. Second wind baseline and something like enraged regen (without that ridiculous 30 rage cost) would be fine.

View PostZerstiren, on 14 August 2011 - 01:21 AM, said:

If you haven't +repped this guy, you are part of the problem.

View PostRenaissance_Man, on 31 July 2013 - 04:31 AM, said:

If I had a gun with two bullets and I was in a room with Hitler, bin Laden, and you, I would shoot you twice.

View Postsimonfra1234, on 25 August 2011 - 08:46 PM, said:

bro you got +rep'd by rapture...

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Posted 26 March 2013 - 02:01 AM

View PostBraindance, on 26 March 2013 - 01:57 AM, said:

That is too much. Second wind baseline and something like enraged regen (without that ridiculous 30 rage cost) would be fine.

What they really should do is have added effects to the stances

I.E., while in defensive stance, you regen 2% of your life every second, something along those lines.
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