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#1 Blackdawn

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Posted 08 March 2013 - 11:42 PM

its said Stance of the fierce Tiger now only increases Dmg by 10% and no longer by 20%..

(additionally by the 5% nerf to Rising Sun Kick)

was it really 20% in 5.1 so that our dmg is reduced by 10% now or was it 10% before too ?
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#2 Jarui

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Posted 09 March 2013 - 03:28 PM

It was 20%.
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Posted 09 March 2013 - 05:10 PM

so afterall the patch which was supposed to buff WWMonks dramatically nerfed the dmg by almoust 15% in the end...
pretty strange
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Posted 11 March 2013 - 02:40 AM

%15 flat dmg nerf is just lazy ... they need to compensate monks with some proper cc, and passive surviveability.

and blizzard said the new masterys goal was to increase on-demand burst but there is nothing on-demand about tigerseyes ramp up time.

Edit: apparently the fix was due to a bug caused by lvl30 talents(what?) that increased monks dps by %10...

Edited by Dimyzuka, 11 March 2013 - 11:01 AM.


#5 Blackdawn

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Posted 11 March 2013 - 06:32 PM

after doing some wargame 2on2s i must say im not very happy with our dmg..
before i could get healers down in 1on1 but now its harder, i really feel the reduced dmg

even with tiger up +35% dmg its just 15% more than in 5.1 without cds...
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#6 Nadagast

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Posted 11 March 2013 - 10:40 PM

The damage nerfs have taken me from pretty excited to play my WW this season to pretty not-excited.  :(

10-15% is a lot of damage to lose.

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Posted 12 March 2013 - 03:15 AM

I def notice the dmg reduc, all week I have been going "wtf happened to my dmg, i hit like a wet noddle now..." kinda sucks

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Posted 12 March 2013 - 01:09 PM

View PostNadagast, on 11 March 2013 - 10:40 PM, said:

The damage nerfs have taken me from pretty excited to play my WW this season to pretty not-excited.  :(

10-15% is a lot of damage to lose.

Yup, WWs are in a worse state in 5.2 than in 5.1 after the massive spear hand strike and selfhealing nerfs together with no longer having our high sustained.

Basically they screwed up as hard as they have ever done regarding pvp balance, they set out to give the class a "substantial buff"(their words), and ended up giving them a (slight'ish) nerf. I've already gone back to my rogue, won't be touching the monk any more because blizzard _CLEARLY_ has absolutely no idea what they want ww monks to be in pvp, nor do they even seem to understand the class at all for pvp because I saw this coming a mile away after the last round of changes on the PTR (spear hand strike nerf, selfhealing nerf and the reworked and now almost useless ring of peace(for ww's, for mw's RoP is still good), not like you'd ever take RoP as ww unless you're vs a double melee cleave, and even then it's questionable.)

Edited by hid, 12 March 2013 - 01:10 PM.


#9 Zigo

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Posted 12 March 2013 - 04:48 PM

I guess the question will become, are we in line with everyone else (and the nerf was justified) or will we fall off and be unimportant again? I already feel my finishing power is a whole lot weaker (it feels like we have burst / dmg every 8 sec (RKS) and diddly out side, (blackout kick lawl?)) I really like monk and enjoy the playstyle, I guess time will tell.

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Posted 25 March 2013 - 09:11 PM

Stance of the Fierce Tiger now increases damage done by 30%, up from 10% hotfix on live.

Is this live yet? dmg still seems a bit low (have T1 tho)

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Posted 25 March 2013 - 09:28 PM

View PostBaksteen, on 25 March 2013 - 09:11 PM, said:

Stance of the Fierce Tiger now increases damage done by 30%, up from 10% hotfix on live.

Is this live yet? dmg still seems a bit low (have T1 tho)

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Posted 25 March 2013 - 09:29 PM

View PostBaksteen, on 25 March 2013 - 09:11 PM, said:

Stance of the Fierce Tiger now increases damage done by 30%, up from 10% hotfix on live.

Is this live yet? dmg still seems a bit low (have T1 tho)

where the hell did you find that.....this is sick news
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Posted 25 March 2013 - 09:51 PM

View Postfoxfighter, on 25 March 2013 - 09:29 PM, said:

where the hell did you find that.....this is sick news
It's on mmo



EDIT: but i guess its for 5.3... look at the wording... up from 10% hot fix on live. meaning its going to be buffed over the hot fix. dunno why they chose that wording.

Edited by Celaurthor, 25 March 2013 - 09:52 PM.


#14 Zigo

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Posted 26 March 2013 - 01:20 AM

This just further proves that blizzard has next to no idea what they want from monks, from 10% nerf to 10% buff ...

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Posted 26 March 2013 - 02:00 AM

I´ve logged in the ptr a few mins ago and the tooltip said a 20% bonus damage in the stance of the fierce tiger

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Posted 26 March 2013 - 01:24 PM

Regardless, getting our damage back puts us in a much better place.

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Posted 26 March 2013 - 01:58 PM

View PostCiarzx, on 25 March 2013 - 09:28 PM, said:

still fatpandasteen?

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Posted 26 March 2013 - 09:31 PM

View PostSyia, on 26 March 2013 - 01:24 PM, said:

Regardless, getting our damage back puts us in a much better place.
mmo made a mistake. That 30% damage change was never going to happen.

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Posted 26 March 2013 - 10:24 PM

View PostChardex, on 26 March 2013 - 09:31 PM, said:

mmo made a mistake. That 30% damage change was never going to happen.

Source ?

#20 Syia

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Posted 27 March 2013 - 12:07 AM

View PostBidj, on 26 March 2013 - 10:24 PM, said:

Source ?

https://twitter.com/...251772450660352

30% was way too much anyways. I think the nerf should be reverted, but not buffed.




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