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#1 Quixotic

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 08:53 PM

so i got randomly added by a guy on skype called ''affzme'' and he started going on about some kind of contract with the paragon PVP team for next season, he didn't want to take the conversation in any other language then english because it could mess something up with some kind of agreement or something which seemed kind of dodgy - i'm still unsure about if this is real or just a scam but he claimed that one of my friends had sent him to me...apparently other people also got contacted by the same person. Here is the whole conversation



Hello my name is
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[21:09:39] Sejta (http://www.paragon.fi/): I was curious if you are interested in a sponsorship.
[21:09:46] Anthon Asph: what lol
[21:10:12] Sejta (http://www.paragon.fi/): I come from a guild known as <DREAM Paragon>, we're currently residents on Lightnings Blade Eu.
[21:10:23] Sejta (http://www.paragon.fi/): We've reached great succes within the terms of end tier raiding.
[21:11:44] Anthon Asph: ok
[21:11:46] Anthon Asph: whats the deal
[21:12:15] Sejta (http://www.paragon.fi/): We have recently recived multiple sponsorships, from several different companies.
[21:12:25] Sejta (http://www.paragon.fi/): We are therefore considering expanding within the terms of this game.
[21:12:38] Sejta (http://www.paragon.fi/): Which have made us want to focus on the pvp aspect of wow.
[21:12:57] Sejta (http://www.paragon.fi/): We're currently looking for players, like yourself.
[21:13:10] Sejta (http://www.paragon.fi/): That is qualified, for this task.
[21:13:13] Anthon Asph: sec
[21:13:18] Sejta (http://www.paragon.fi/): We have got an advice from a friend of yours.
[21:13:34] Sejta (http://www.paragon.fi/): X
[21:13:41] Sejta (http://www.paragon.fi/): He is currently sponsored.
[21:14:44] Sejta (http://www.paragon.fi/): Are you interested in becoming a part of paragon?
We need people like you to help us expand within the player versus. player community.
[21:14:58] Sejta (http://www.paragon.fi/): Of course there is things such as money and fame in for you here aswell.
[21:15:18] Sejta (http://www.paragon.fi/): We're currently working on hosting a tournament sponsored by Curse and ArenaJunkies, similar to the yaspresents tournament.
[21:17:03] Sejta (http://www.paragon.fi/): I can see how you might feel uncomfortable in this situation, since I took quite primitive measures to get in touch with you, however the only information we were refered with was a skype name.
[21:18:24] Anthon Asph: emh
[21:18:32] Anthon Asph: är du svensk?
[21:19:03] Sejta (http://www.paragon.fi/): I'm originally from Finland, however i'm currently positioned in sweden.
[21:19:10] Anthon Asph: ah
[21:19:12] Anthon Asph: emh
[21:19:16] Anthon Asph: like
[21:19:19] Anthon Asph: whats required from me?
[21:19:24] Sejta (http://www.paragon.fi/): For safety reasons and communication purposes in any sort of agreements, i'd prefer that we'd take this conversation in english.
[21:19:52] Anthon Asph: ok
[21:20:09] Sejta (http://www.paragon.fi/): That you were to become a part of our RBG team, you will have a choice of either migrating one of your characters to Lightnings Blade-EU (our charge).
[21:20:23] Sejta (http://www.paragon.fi/): Either that or being given a character (of your class choice) to play on.
[21:21:06] Sejta (http://www.paragon.fi/): We are sponsored by ASUS and SteelSeries.
[21:21:46] Sejta (http://www.paragon.fi/): If your agreement is kept.
You will after 6 weeks of unpaid charge.
Get a monthly fee, aswell as SteelSeries gear.
[21:22:03] Anthon Asph: is there any proof that this is actually legit
[21:22:09] Sejta (http://www.paragon.fi/): This monthly fee is dependent on your overall preformance.
[21:22:13] Sejta (http://www.paragon.fi/): Yes, certainly.
[21:22:46] Sejta (http://www.paragon.fi/): Our lawyer and representative will have you contacted, as soon as we've gotten some additional information from you.
[21:23:09] Sejta (http://www.paragon.fi/): Could you give me your email?
We will send you a form, that you will have to fill in.
[21:23:35] Sejta (http://www.paragon.fi/): The mail will come from:
[email protected]
[21:26:15] Anthon Asph: im back
[21:26:17] Anthon Asph: anyway
[21:26:19] Anthon Asph: 2 questions
[21:26:34] Sejta (http://www.paragon.fi/): Go ahead.
[21:26:47] Anthon Asph: first of all i thought that
[21:26:52] Anthon Asph: paragon was an all finnish guild
[21:27:12] Sejta (http://www.paragon.fi/): Well, how do i put this?
[21:27:18] Sejta (http://www.paragon.fi/): There are not enough of end-tier finnish pvpers.
[21:27:24] Sejta (http://www.paragon.fi/): To be able to fill the spots.
[21:27:42] Sejta (http://www.paragon.fi/): We do have players from finland such as: Ponzai, Tuhka and many others.
[21:27:52] Anthon Asph: ok
[21:27:53] Anthon Asph: and
[21:28:03] Anthon Asph: why do you need me to xfer since rbg is possible cross realm?
[21:28:40] Sejta (http://www.paragon.fi/): We do not need you specificly to transfer, if you have an (extra) shaman to spare. Else we'll give you an additional shaman.
[21:28:55] Sejta (http://www.paragon.fi/): It is for representative purpose.
[21:29:12] Sejta (http://www.paragon.fi/): Simply for "Aesthetics", we can't really say you're a part of Paragon.. If you're not actually in the guild?
[21:29:26] Anthon Asph: yeh i get it
[21:29:33] Anthon Asph: but
[21:30:01] Anthon Asph: do i ahve to give you a specific email or just any email?
[21:30:17] Sejta (http://www.paragon.fi/): Any email that we can reach you on.
[21:30:23] Sejta (http://www.paragon.fi/): I'll send you a form within the next 24 hours.
[21:30:42] Sejta (http://www.paragon.fi/): A few of us were watching you stream, a couple of hours ago.
[21:30:49] Sejta (http://www.paragon.fi/): It looked well!
[21:30:56] Anthon Asph: lol
[21:30:59] Anthon Asph: whats your twitch name
[21:32:22] Sejta (http://www.paragon.fi/): Well unfortunately, Sejta was already taken!
[21:32:46] Anthon Asph: can you tell me what X said
[21:32:50] Sejta (http://www.paragon.fi/): www.twitch.tv/team/paragon
[21:33:14] Sejta (http://www.paragon.fi/): He said that he had been in touch with you multiple times.
[21:33:31] Sejta (http://www.paragon.fi/): That you were a high valued member which also had reached great succes within all aspects within pvp.
[21:33:48] Sejta (http://www.paragon.fi/): He claimed that you had a wide player-base of contacts and that you had a lot of influence in the pvp society.
[21:34:14] Anthon Asph: is there any way you can prove to me that your a high ranked member of paragon
[21:34:49] Sejta (http://www.paragon.fi/): Is it not possible for you to wait for the email?
[21:35:22] Anthon Asph: i want you to log and show me your char
[21:36:14] Sejta (http://www.paragon.fi/): This is unfortunately not how we operate.
[21:36:26] Sejta (http://www.paragon.fi/): It will be proven in time, that we are the real paragon.
[21:36:54] Anthon Asph: like you got no actuall proof how am i supposed to believe this
[21:37:16] Sejta (http://www.paragon.fi/): By giving me an email, and the form will be submitted to you.
[21:37:33] Sejta (http://www.paragon.fi/): If you are not interested, i'll have to proceed and seek others.
[21:38:51] Anthon Asph: isn't it possible to whenever you start doing the rbgs to get a few test games, and then xfer as soon as i saw that you actually have a team
[21:39:19] Sejta (http://www.paragon.fi/): This would be a possiblity.
[21:39:43] Sejta (http://www.paragon.fi/): Fill out the form, and we'll discuss this in a vocal call.
[21:40:04] Sejta (http://www.paragon.fi/): Whenever you got some spare time.
[21:40:09] Sejta (http://www.paragon.fi/): I'm quite busy for this moment being.
[21:40:32] Anthon Asph: i'm sorry but you're gonna have to look for something else
[21:41:07] Sejta (http://www.paragon.fi/): Alright.
[21:41:10] Sejta (http://www.paragon.fi/): Thanks for your time.
[21:41:15] Sejta (http://www.paragon.fi/): I wish you the best!

As his probably gonna contact several other people i will just tell you before you do anything to bare in mind that this could be a scam. It would be nice if a high ranked member of <DREAM PARAGON> could state that this offer is actually real. Take care guys and don't do stupid shit :D

Also if anyone else got contacted by the guy please let us know and give us a bit of info :)

Edited by Quixotic, 01 March 2013 - 09:12 PM.

For some people awesomeness is only one step away, for me on the other hand i've already crossed that line with a fucking mile.

#2 Raak

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 09:01 PM

And why not contact people from Paragon instead of making a thread here?

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 09:03 PM

IF it was real, its no more for you atleast **pve ego broken**

Posted Imagesend them an email, dont make posts on aj xD they are PVERS not pvpers

Edited by Zerlog, 01 March 2013 - 09:05 PM.


#4 Quixotic

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 09:08 PM

it was mostly to tell other people to be careful and not agree on something too quickly

Edited by Quixotic, 01 March 2013 - 09:16 PM.

For some people awesomeness is only one step away, for me on the other hand i've already crossed that line with a fucking mile.

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 09:10 PM

Easy to find out, what did friend say about it? If he says that that guy never talked to him or w/e it's a scam. But what should be the idea behind this scam? And what does he want to scam from you? Doesn't make any sense.

Edited by TteSPORTSDoomsen, 01 March 2013 - 09:29 PM.


#6 Quixotic

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 09:13 PM

he wants me to fill in some kind of form, get my email or other contact info i have no idea? i'm not saying this is a scam but it might be
For some people awesomeness is only one step away, for me on the other hand i've already crossed that line with a fucking mile.

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 09:15 PM

still can't understand why you didn't contact your friend before posting this on AJ but nevermind.

Edited by TteSPORTSDoomsen, 01 March 2013 - 09:29 PM.


#8 Theles

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 09:19 PM

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[21:27:42] Sejta (http://www.paragon.fi/): We do have players from finland such as: Ponzai, Tuhka and many others.


:DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 09:21 PM

Being a part of Acer myself, this doesn't actually seem sketchy at all. Just wait for the email and see what the email has to offer.

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 09:24 PM

you could have just given him your email, what could he possibly get from you just from an email? and what if it was legit you just screwed the pooch?
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Posted 01 March 2013 - 09:27 PM

mostly the point of this post was to see if anyone else actually was in contact with this guy or was a part of a similar agreement
For some people awesomeness is only one step away, for me on the other hand i've already crossed that line with a fucking mile.

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 09:34 PM

View PostQuixotic, on 01 March 2013 - 08:53 PM, said:

[21:22:46] Sejta (http://www.paragon.fi/): Our lawyer and representative will have you contacted, as soon as we've gotten some additional information from you.

baten???

heheh
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Posted 01 March 2013 - 09:52 PM

View PostQuixotic, on 01 March 2013 - 08:53 PM, said:


[21:23:35] Sejta (http://www.paragon.fi/): The mail will come from:
[email protected]

http://www.paragon.fi
sejta@paragon.com

shouldnt the mail end in .fi or? I don't know alot about email adresses when they are tied to someones website

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 10:35 PM

View PostHankpro, on 01 March 2013 - 09:52 PM, said:

http://www.paragon.fi
sejta@paragon.com

shouldnt the mail end in .fi or? I don't know alot about email adresses when they are tied to someones website

Detective Hank has solved the mystery.

Registrant:
Paragon Imaging
400 W CUMMINGS PARK STE 2050
WOBURN, MA 01801-6584
US

Domain Name: PARAGON.COM
Registrar: NETWORK SOLUTIONS, LLC.
Creation Date: 20-AUG-1990
Updated Date: 04-MAY-2012
Expiration Date: 19-AUG-2015

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 10:45 PM

100% Fake, but looks like a detective above alrdy solved the case.

-Verdisha, Officer of Dream Paragon.

Edited by Verdishaz, 01 March 2013 - 10:46 PM.


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Posted 01 March 2013 - 11:17 PM

thanks for the quick response atleast now i'm happy that i didn't fall for any of that ;p
For some people awesomeness is only one step away, for me on the other hand i've already crossed that line with a fucking mile.

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 11:18 PM

For your information I'm in no way contacted with Paragon and I actually haven't played PvP since cata.  Although I must say its funny how they mentioned me twice..

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Posted 02 March 2013 - 12:06 AM

It's also funny how they say they need to fill the spots with people who aren't finnish and then they mention Tuhka who is finnish...
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Posted 08 March 2013 - 06:22 AM

I don't mean to necro a recently lain corpse of a thread but...
What could they possibly have asked of you?
Want a sponsorship? Pls insert crdit crd detailz?
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Posted 08 March 2013 - 08:54 AM

maybe real life info like name adress etc, " for recieving sponsor gear " wouldn't it then be easy to call blizz up and provide the details for account theft or something?




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