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[Seu]

Braindance, on 28 February 2013 - 12:25 AM, said:

Oh first ranks in bg9 are sp/shaman/melee

if by melee you mean 14 goddamn warriors and potentially 5 melee of other classes then yes

nearly twice as many hunters getting glad on bg9 as spriests too

[Braindance]

Seu, on 28 February 2013 - 08:32 PM, said:

if by melee you mean 14 goddamn warriors and potentially 5 melee of other classes then yes

nearly twice as many hunters getting glad on bg9 as spriests too

I think you should refer to my last post on the previous page.

[Djandawg]

Well the main concern vs KFC is, you lose while being unable to play your character and even when they fuck up you still lose to raw damage. As RPS, against anything else, I feel like we can do some stuff, at least play the game and see how it goes as opposed to getting dpsd helplessly. We might not be able to win, maybe have worse counters but at least we get to create spots where we do something.
Also they kinda released S12 warrior without much thought, I sincerely believe it was worse than S5 DK:
On top of everything they have now, they had heroic throw and pummel silence,  long freedom with avatar and 5 stacks of TFB.

And please,enough with the a good god comp dominates kfc bs. Maybe it's different with a holy pala , I haven't played with one but it's kind of painful otherwise.

Edited by Djandawg, 28 February 2013 - 09:02 PM.

[Braindance]

Djandawg, on 28 February 2013 - 08:53 PM, said:

Well the main concern vs KFC is, you lose while being unable to play your character and even when they fuck up you still lose to raw damage. As RPS, against anything else, I feel like we can do some stuff, at least play the game and see how it goes as opposed to getting dpsd helplessly. We might not be able to win, maybe have worse counters but at least we get to create spots where we do something.
Also they kinda released S12 warrior without much thought, I sincerely believe it was worse than S5 DK:
On top of everything they have now, they had heroic throw and pummel silence,  long freedom with avatar and 5 stacks of TFB.

I agree with everything in your post but this - never use that comparison ever again.

[Izirak]

The thing about KFC is they do realllllly well vs most every comp. Any trap landing is scary for the other team, and they have a lot of ways to cross CC and land it. Whenever I beat them as FPS I feel pretty comfortable beating them, but it feels like we are putting in like 5 times as much work to keep them from landing traps / killing us in CDs.

[fant0m8]

Djandawg, on 28 February 2013 - 04:25 AM, said:

(Cdew/Talb/Reckful dropping 50 points in 2 games to a 2200 kfc)

That KFC was 2400 (2386 or so iirc) and appears to have been stacking damage. Reck and Talb left Cdew to fend for himself against that.

[fant0m8]

affix, on 28 February 2013 - 12:14 AM, said:

Some very obvious conclusions can be drawn here, and some surprises (like just as many Rogue Gladiators as Mage Glads on BG9!  Crazy.)

http://www.hildegard...-for-eu-and-us/

How is 39 glad Hunters vs. 36 Mages, 48 (DPS) Priests, 33 (DPS) Druids a "clear winner?"

Oh wait, it's Affix. I should be used to your anti-Hunter bias after all these years.

[Dagin]

fant0m8, on 01 March 2013 - 09:58 AM, said:

How is 39 glad Hunters vs. 36 Mages, 48 (DPS) Priests, 33 (DPS) Druids a "clear winner?"

Oh wait, it's Affix. I should be used to your anti-Hunter bias after all these years.

Detective Russet on da case.

[Pandamcpanda]

whoa guys, hunters are at 8.9% rep, lets stop the presses! hunters should be sub 5% like in most of the other seasons: http://www.arenajunk...ator-breakdown/

Don't worry though, for the highest  to second highest played class, all hunters are terrible players and should be less represented then any other class, including warlocks and rogues who have less then half the total amount of players.

[GrieverZ]

While i hate how Affx is biased as much as you guys, its pretty hard to defend BM this season, spec was a joke, made me quit arena altogether.

[dionim]

fant0m8, on 01 March 2013 - 09:58 AM, said:

How is 39 glad Hunters vs. 36 Mages, 48 (DPS) Priests, 33 (DPS) Druids a "clear winner?"

Oh wait, it's Affix. I should be used to your anti-Hunter bias after all these years.

where you saw 36 glad Mages and 33 (dps) druids?

[Pandamcpanda]

http://www.hildegard...-for-eu-and-us/

just look at the total players, there are 36 mages, 33 dps druids (and 23 healer druids), 48 shadow priests, etc.

[Hackattack3]

affix, on 28 February 2013 - 12:14 AM, said:

Some very obvious conclusions can be drawn here, and some surprises (like just as many Rogue Gladiators as Mage Glads on BG9!  Crazy.)

http://www.hildegard...-for-eu-and-us/

If it deviates from the larger US population statistics, the most likely conclusion is that there aren't as many good mages on BG9.

[Hackattack3]

Braindance, on 28 February 2013 - 08:27 PM, said:

There have always been op cheese comps, but on AJ anything that includes a warrior has to be the worst out of all of them everytime. Kfc is  indeed op and retard friendly, but there have been equally braindead comps in the past. I am completely baffled as to why no one referring to sp shaman warrior/feral which is like the most foolproof comp (not most op) to ever appear on the game and everyone just keeps bashing kfc (which I hate myself).

Acknowledging my bias, speaking from a hunter/casterdps/healer perspective, the game always feels like its in a bad spot when warriors and Dks are viable/top tier (from ATC to TSG).  I don't know if it's b/c the classes have a high skill floor and low skill cap or are just plain easy to play, but the game feels bad and mongo.  

I always felt like regardless of what the other cheeze comps were (RLS, RMP, dot cleaves, beast cleave) you could at least formulate a plan to deal with them and "try" to execute, you had to play better than them to win but they won't overwhelming you with straight rush or bullshit abilities.

[dionim]

Pandamcpanda, on 01 March 2013 - 05:57 PM, said:

http://www.hildegard...-for-eu-and-us/

just look at the total players, there are 36 mages, 33 dps druids (and 23 healer druids), 48 shadow priests, etc.

Thas EU ladders, US is 58 Hunters, 29 Mages, 18 (DPS) Druids.

[Dagin]

dionim, on 01 March 2013 - 06:07 PM, said:

Thas EU ladders, US is 58 Hunters, 29 Mages, 18 (DPS) Druids.

Yeah noone cares about what goes on in all of wow only us bg9 dictate what should be done anyway.

[Chazzwozzer]

fant0m8, on 01 March 2013 - 09:52 AM, said:

How is 39 glad Hunters vs. 36 Mages, 48 (DPS) Priests, 33 (DPS) Druids a "clear winner?"

Oh wait, it's Affix. I should be used to your anti-Hunter bias after all these years.

I would assume that Affix is referring to hunters as clear winners on the US battlegroups.  On US battlegroups there are actually more hunters getting glad than spriest, and most players tend to agree that spriest is one of the strongest specs in the game currently.  If hunters have more representation than what is considered one of the strongest specs, wouldn't that make them a winner?

Edited by Chazzwozzer, 01 March 2013 - 06:26 PM.

[dionim]

Dagin, on 01 March 2013 - 06:16 PM, said:

Yeah noone cares about what goes on in all of wow only us bg9 dictate what should be done anyway.

you should get statistics from where you play, the same as EU should not count US statistics

considering hes from US, im 100% sure he ddint saw that it was EU, lol.

Edited by dionim, 01 March 2013 - 06:27 PM.

[Pandamcpanda]

Hahaha wupps, just saw the US stats, nerf hunters! 14% wooo!

[Dagin]

dionim, on 01 March 2013 - 06:25 PM, said:

you should get statistics from where you play, the same as EU should not count US statistics

considering hes from US, im 100% sure he ddint saw that it was EU, lol.

I refer you to my last post again. In relation to the op first post.