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#1 ardnut

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Posted 27 February 2013 - 09:28 AM

https://twitter.com/...561311639240704

@Ghostcrawler Would Blizzard ever consider making Arenas cross-realm? Battlegroups seem a little outdated with x-realm RBGs and all that. :)

@oliviadgrace We would in fact consider it. Also debating if teams are cool or a hindrance.

This could be the best season ever!!!

Edit: https://twitter.com/...773909364170752

@Ghostcrawler i mean 1 team tied to rating. make more than one team or make another system please so i can play with others too

Greg Street@Ghostcrawler
@pisuri Yeah, that's what I meant with my tweet a few weeks ago. Teams can be a barrier to playing with friends.

Edited by ardnut, 01 March 2013 - 11:09 AM.

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Posted 27 February 2013 - 09:34 AM

very interesting
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Posted 27 February 2013 - 09:41 AM

Was just a question about when, this is a huge step being able to play with more people without migrating.

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Posted 27 February 2013 - 10:10 AM

This would be amazing - but would blizzard really do something that would lose them money - they must know about the mass migration that goes on for glad/r1/boosts every season.

Props to them if they do it though
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Posted 27 February 2013 - 10:19 AM

View PostZaephyr, on 27 February 2013 - 10:10 AM, said:

This would be amazing - but would blizzard really do something that would lose them money - they must know about the mass migration that goes on for glad/r1/boosts every season.

Props to them if they do it though

what really makes blizzard the money in the long run is subscriptions... keeping people paying month in and month out.  That's what they really want...transfers are tiny amount of money in comparison... if you can boost interest in the game and make people play for longer (by longer I mean for more months/years) then you are going to make more money in the long run.
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Posted 27 February 2013 - 10:25 AM

View PostZaephyr, on 27 February 2013 - 10:10 AM, said:

This would be amazing - but would blizzard really do something that would lose them money - they must know about the mass migration that goes on for glad/r1/boosts every season.

Props to them if they do it though

There's about 350 players that get glad, let's assume it's 50% who migrate for title. It's with this math 4350euros (25e per migrate) per every 5-7 months lost if they implement this feature. I think money isn't the thing here. Even if everyone migrated for title, it'd be under 9000e per half a year lost, that's nothing.
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Posted 27 February 2013 - 10:36 AM

It's a lot to me :(
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Posted 27 February 2013 - 10:40 AM

It's a lot to me too... but it's less than pennies to Bli$$ard
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Posted 27 February 2013 - 10:58 AM

Wouldn't this just make wintrading easier to do (implying it's not already) and harder to detect, especially if there's no teams

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Posted 27 February 2013 - 11:01 AM

View Postardnut, on 27 February 2013 - 10:40 AM, said:

It's a lot to me too... but it's less than pennies to Bli$$ard

If there's 350 players getting glad, there's 70,000 players on 3v3 bracket (just an estimate), monthly these players make 1,050,000 dollars to Blizzard. So yes, migrates are less than pennies (0,07% of monthly) :P
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Posted 27 February 2013 - 11:04 AM

i higly doubt they will add this, as they are gaining so much money from transfers for titles, and even if they did, im sure there would be some kind of restriction that you cant get titles or something

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Posted 27 February 2013 - 11:04 AM

View PostHnng, on 27 February 2013 - 10:58 AM, said:

Wouldn't this just make wintrading easier to do (implying it's not already) and harder to detect, especially if there's no teams

If anything, it might make it harder because of how many teams would be queueing resulting in it being almost impossible to time.
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Posted 27 February 2013 - 11:08 AM

about time they do that! this should have been implemented since cata

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Posted 27 February 2013 - 11:13 AM

View PostZerlog, on 27 February 2013 - 11:04 AM, said:

i higly doubt they will add this, as they are gaining so much money from transfers for titles, and even if they did, im sure there would be some kind of restriction that you cant get titles or something

Did you read the whole thread or just the OP... I'm assuming just the OP or you just don't understand maths.
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Posted 27 February 2013 - 11:14 AM

View PostVirent, on 27 February 2013 - 11:04 AM, said:

If anything, it might make it harder because of how many teams would be queueing resulting in it being almost impossible to time.

+repped you but having thought about it... ppl trade at stupid hours of the morning... so wouldn't be any harder really.  All they need to do is implement the old armoury and players can easily detect whoes wintrading and report it
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Posted 27 February 2013 - 11:20 AM

There are some issues with battlegroups. You can't really remove them without an overhaul of the system. And having cross realm teams means that teams could be listed in different battlegroups. The reason for split ladders is simple, you have the same principal in SC2. Being in the top 20 of some pools feels way better than being on place 217 in the whole region. Will definitely not make it into patch 5.2 but would be a lovely feature for 5.3 (probably together with cross realm raids and maybe cross-realm auction house).

What the unannounced feature is - either a mini-race game with mounts (reason to collect them beyond looks) or additional cross-realm features. Best would be both.

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Posted 27 February 2013 - 11:39 AM

Yes they would have to overhaul the system... but it is not that big a job.  It won't be done for patch 5.3 because I think that is a mid season patch like 5.1 was.  So this would be 5.4 (season 14) or after.  Please don't be negative about this because it might discourage blizzard from doing it!
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Posted 27 February 2013 - 11:53 AM

Player only ladders would be so fucking good (from a team hoppers perspective).
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Posted 27 February 2013 - 12:08 PM

Hey ayra you qt
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Posted 27 February 2013 - 01:39 PM

View Postardnut, on 27 February 2013 - 11:14 AM, said:

+repped you but having thought about it... ppl trade at stupid hours of the morning... so wouldn't be any harder really.  All they need to do is implement the old armoury and players can easily detect whoes wintrading and report it

Altogether in all BGs though, there are quite a few people (or were, when I was awake around those hours) playing around those times. Could be night-time jobs, different hours etc.

And it might even pursuade more people to come back and actually start queueing because of how many teams would be queueing chances are no ratings would be safe until like last week of the season.
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