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#81 WildeHilde

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Posted 09 February 2013 - 11:17 PM

1.) Dance and Killing Spree don't work together. Dance is for sub only and Spree is for combat only.

2.) Killing Spree is easily countered by just standing close together or have a pet nearby. Still fun if it's not countered.

#82 miShaqt

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Posted 09 February 2013 - 11:18 PM

View PostGambino6, on 09 February 2013 - 11:15 PM, said:

why are you so angry? did you recently look into the mirror?
I'm tired of seeing this shit posted on these forums. It's morons like him that bitch on PTR forums because they have no ideea what really happened and feedback like his ( if you can even call it that ) is taken into account and then we all stand in awe at the start of a season at how classes are balanced.
Name one mistake I made in my prev posts.

Edited by miShaqt, 09 February 2013 - 11:19 PM.


#83 Snuggli

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Posted 09 February 2013 - 11:22 PM

View PostmiShaqt, on 09 February 2013 - 11:18 PM, said:

Name one mistake I made in my prev posts.

I don't think he was calling you out on whether you made mistakes or not. It's more the way you are insulting everyone who even dares quote one of your posts.

View PostBraindance, on 11 October 2013 - 12:44 PM, said:

Go listen to some Bieber shit and leave me alone fucko.

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Posted 09 February 2013 - 11:23 PM

My first post was misleading, so i explained it.
If you didn't get it, I'm sorry.
And to your information I never bitch on any PTR forums ;)
Anyway i thought you were out of here?

#85 Shiqra

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Posted 09 February 2013 - 11:25 PM

/use Killing Spree; Shadow Dance; Vendetta;
best swifty macro

#86 miShaqt

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Posted 09 February 2013 - 11:25 PM

View PostClyx, on 09 February 2013 - 11:23 PM, said:

My first post was misleading, so i explained it.
If you didn't get it, I'm sorry.
And to your information I never bitch on any PTR forums ;)
Anyway i thought you were out of here?
Wasn't talking about you.

Edited by miShaqt, 09 February 2013 - 11:26 PM.


#87 miShaqt

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Posted 09 February 2013 - 11:26 PM

View PostSnuggli, on 09 February 2013 - 11:22 PM, said:

I don't think he was calling you out on whether you made mistakes or not. It's more the way you are insulting everyone who even dares quote one of your posts.
Because he's horrible and doesn't want to understand or accept the simple facts that they lost because they are shit.

#88 mimmick

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Posted 10 February 2013 - 12:07 AM

View PostmiShaqt, on 09 February 2013 - 11:51 PM, said:

Didn't play triple dps, my friend, didn't use legendaries either nor vial since it never dropped. So tough luck there. On the other hand you are mentally challenged because you call all cooldowns and procs "randomly swifty one shot". You might want to try some medication.
Arguing with him is like talking to a wall honestly, just a huge waste of time. Autistic children will never admit they are wrong.

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Posted 10 February 2013 - 12:10 AM

Take it to PM's if you must compare notes on who has what illness, posting content such as that faster than we can delete it is just asking for trouble.
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Posted 10 February 2013 - 01:02 AM

View PostModerator, on 10 February 2013 - 12:10 AM, said:

Take it to PM's if you must compare notes on who has what illness, posting content such as that faster than we can delete it is just asking for trouble.

I could not agree more, im sorry for everyone here who were let down by my posting standards being brought this low, no excuses ill take it like a man and sorry everyone, i let it get to personal

sometimes internet just is the internet

Edited by Zerlog, 10 February 2013 - 01:04 AM.


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Posted 10 February 2013 - 01:10 AM

double post

Edited by Zerlog, 10 February 2013 - 01:14 AM.


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Posted 10 February 2013 - 01:44 AM

View PostmiShaqt, on 09 February 2013 - 10:06 PM, said:

BAHAHAHAAHHAHA gl playing combat you idiot.

BAHAHAH gl getting trolled you idiot.
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Posted 10 February 2013 - 01:48 AM

View PostShiqra, on 09 February 2013 - 11:25 PM, said:

/use Killing Spree; Shadow Dance; Vendetta;
best swifty macro

This guy, .... is getting glad, guarenteed

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Posted 10 February 2013 - 01:51 AM

View PostMirionx, on 09 February 2013 - 07:11 PM, said:

Yeah they're far to good on the PTR and need to be toned down, they needed more survival and not damage.

Cataclysm recup and shorter CD on cloak & vanish would of been fine really. Burst was never the issue, bursting every 1 minute was okey.
guess what, no one really cares
Blizzard randomly make classes overpowered so people who quit renew their sub.
there is no reason to complain AT ALL. Just take it for granted that there is always some class(es) that sht all over the arena.

i will never believe that blizzard do those "fixes" without realizing how it will turn out. Like s5 dks. You need to be a stupid 5 year old to let those "fixes" go through and hope that it wont destroy "balance". so ye, its all about enjoying those moments of glory

Edited by Lieto, 10 February 2013 - 01:54 AM.

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Posted 10 February 2013 - 02:01 AM

rogue offensive is fine on live, less sustained dmg but good burst

just give them more survivability against meele, prep baseline, cloak 1,5min, blind 2min

and remove all the other changes. warrior nerf is the biggest buff for rogues

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Posted 10 February 2013 - 02:16 AM



2x Dancing Steel proc
3 stacks of Bandit's guile
Unholy Frenzy
onUse trinket
Prey on the Weak
Horn of Winter
Crit luck
Skill that could be easily countered.
Didn't recognize the buff that comes at 0:06 (15 second duration)

Don't like burst videos like this.


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Posted 10 February 2013 - 02:30 AM

it could be easly countered but well had no idea it was coming and the bomb stoped both my grip disarm and stun that comes with it, cant spyfiend into smoke bomb, yeah problem is not that the swap was horrible, it was that the paladin, not even me or the mage thought something like this could happen from a rogue, not to blame anyone or defend us, but its so easy to look at the vid and then say x and y, like im sure most ppl here never seen a rogue do that fast damage and end at 100% energy :P and that the dk were connecting at the end where he died, just shows that even if he boubled(should have on full hp tbh) he would be mass dispeled and prbly in trouble.

and all im thinking is, what if it was a really really good Thug or RMP with that rogue burst combined with the hunter and mage + mass dispel.  does not look to hard to setup and pretty easy tho


yeah we got outplayed, under estimated our opponents, happens nothing else but to learn and go on, even the best has their bad days, thats how they learn

Edited by Zerlog, 10 February 2013 - 02:31 AM.


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Posted 10 February 2013 - 02:47 AM

blizzard defo going in the wrong direction with rogues... I've played a BUNCH of games on PTR and rogue vs rogue is literally whoever gets the other rogue in a stun without trinket first WINS.


rogue dmg is more than fine on live, it's only their survival that has to be tweaked... make shieldwall thingy useable in stuns or w/e dont care. It's actually annoying as fuck when blizzard do so many rights just to fuck everything up with one class becoming godmode



just wanna point out that I could not give 2 shits bout killing spree. However, I duelled a couple of sub rogues on PTR and they can kill me before I can use one single global (without trinketing) & earth shield up.

the numbers were something like 98k eviscerate 68k ambush 97k eviscerate 70k ambush + random white hits & poison dmg in between -> dead


I had 68% resilience. It happened more than 1 duel

Edited by Dakkrothy, 10 February 2013 - 02:54 AM.


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Posted 10 February 2013 - 02:48 AM

View PostWildeHilde, on 10 February 2013 - 02:16 AM, said:

Didn't recognize the buff that comes at 0:06 (15 second duration)
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Posted 10 February 2013 - 02:53 AM

View PostZerlog, on 09 February 2013 - 07:01 PM, said:

shadowblade dance killing spreed if you can use them at the same time? did they give rogues warrior stacks or something? i have no idea..


Edit: the pvp spell power weapons are one handed now, so maybe 2spell power t2? if that stacks something i haven o idea, know that some use the dagger in offhand for pvp power tho



Hïldegard

should investigate!

View PostZerlog, on 09 February 2013 - 06:40 PM, said:

im very interested in seeing if anyone had this issue, random 10min que vs some dog swifty team who has global hack or somthing yo?

no seriously that cant be intended, dont care if its a bug or not but WHAT THE FUCK

does anyone have an idea of wtf just happened?

View PostZerlog, on 09 February 2013 - 06:57 PM, said:

what, so you think that its totaly fine to get globald by a random step bomb wtf is he doing 2sec globald when the dk is busy runing back n forth to realise the pala was dead, and the disc prbly did less healing then the rogue himself? ofc he loged out, he exited skype, shutdown hes pc prbly... idk if he took a print but i doubt so as he just simply went offline.

and tbh i would throw my pc out the window, but first id make sure to uninstall the game first..

also never played rogue, i did 120k non crit evicirate (cant even name the ability lol) on a mage <.<

View PostZerlog, on 09 February 2013 - 07:05 PM, said:

No idea first rogue we meet n he goes swifty in less then 1min into the game

View PostZerlog, on 09 February 2013 - 07:17 PM, said:

i know you cant, sounds stupid that i typed it but i mean something most be wrong to do that stupid amount of damage yea, and he was not using cloak and dagger, he used Step, inspected him afterwards ;/ so no idea

And bout l2p, cant really do nothing if he randomly steps bomb and pala died from 100-0 while stuck in global and ofc he didint expect to get globald randomly alone just like that, and yeah idk

View PostZerlog, on 09 February 2013 - 07:32 PM, said:

then rogues should not even be recieveing buffs.. if they can glbl something when blizz wants to move out from fotm swifty mode ...

and wouldnt suprise me if it would end up on 780k over a 5sec stun..

View PostZerlog, on 09 February 2013 - 07:34 PM, said:

The game takes ~40sec to start, it was literly 25sec into the game we were on DK cause priest was locked down in stun without trinket in los and unable to pain sup the dk, he ams+shield wall, i got 3orbs and we have all cds + deep, were just bout to psy fiend/Nova the both dps and go priest(behind tomb) when the rogue globald the pala like wtfk

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