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[Shrunkex]

Hi guys, whats your opinion on 5.2 Boomkins, there is really no nerf to them at all, with new gear will be haste cap suitable ? because in 5.1 i find crit / mastery more suitable for arenas, coz of RNG crits during CDs

what do you think ?

[Regent]

OP nerf now.

[Zerlog]

Regent, on 04 February 2013 - 05:28 PM, said:

OP nerf now.

[Jinngofagswag]

Regent, on 04 February 2013 - 05:28 PM, said:

OP nerf now.

[Shrunkex]

• Wrath damage have been increased by 9%
  
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  • Starfire damage have been increased by 9%.
    
  • Starsurge damage have been increased by 9%

what do you think guys? i find starsurge little bit broke, but im kinda glad for wrath change, coz now it hits for nothing

[Hakasa]

^ Buffed because of pve and to make up for the NV nerf (that is an overall dmg nerf in pve btw, regardless of the shorter cd)

Edited by Hakasa, 13 February 2013 - 02:48 PM.

[Jacquelol]

all hail boomkin overlord

[phunk]

rogue bomkin disc priest!

[Filthpig]

LSD2 best comp s13

[Shellshockz]

here we go guys, lsd with beam vortex and 300k surge crits! ALL GET READY NEW KFC STYLE

[Chzbrgr]

Shellshockz, on 14 February 2013 - 03:03 AM, said:

here we go guys, lsd with beam vortex and 300k surge crits! ALL GET READY NEW KFC STYLE

Starsurge is pretty ridiculous, but it isn't ever going to hit 300k on players. I would rather have some of that damage put back into dots, and allow shaman to use totems while silenced (But not locked out on nature).

[Hackattack3]

Filthpig, on 14 February 2013 - 02:44 AM, said:

LSD2 best comp s13

I'm going war/boomer/rsham or dk/boomer/rsham


On Topic:

I honestly believe boomer will be the best arena spec for druid come 5.2.  There is soooo much symbiosis abuse people have no idea about.

[Enim]

Hackattack3, on 16 February 2013 - 12:59 AM, said:

I honestly believe boomer will be the best arena spec for druid come 5.2.  There is soooo much symbiosis abuse people have no idea about.

Please elaborate.

[boomroasted]

kill it with fire

[Zerlog]

Shrunkex, on 04 February 2013 - 03:58 PM, said:

Hi guys, whats your opinion on 5.2 Boomkins, there is really no nerf to them at all, with new gear will be haste cap suitable ? because in 5.1 i find crit / mastery more suitable for arenas, coz of RNG crits during CDs

what do you think ?

run Shadow priest moonkin rshaman/hpala, symbiosis mass dispel (lolol) sick dotdamage and insane burst and the cc the paladin brings is not even legit also innervate for him = he never ooms if hes gd seeing you can peel so much and just hot eachother so he can drink if needed


think Crit will be gd in that  comp, 5% haste buff + mastery and stamina and intellct, you got all buffs right there so stack crit n win?

Edited by Zerlog, 16 February 2013 - 02:28 AM.

[Hakasa]

You guys know the cast time for MD as boomkin is like realllllly long right lol - I believe it is as long as unglyphed priest MD.

[Korzul]

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However, this has some implications on the Unerring Vision of Lei Shen trinket. We’re tentatively fine with the idea of you seeing that proc go off, and reapplying DoTs which crit for their whole duration, in most cases. There’s a couple cases where those periodic crits cause other effects, which end up being very powerful. For example, a Balance Druid can now apply Moonfire and Sunfire, and pretty much chain instant Starsurges for 15 sec, many of which are extending that Moonfire and Sunfire, probably out to 20-25 sec. That’s extremely strong, but we’re going to try leaving it alone for now.

[Hackattack3]

Hakasa, on 16 February 2013 - 05:34 AM, said:

You guys know the cast time for MD as boomkin is like realllllly long right lol - I believe it is as long as unglyphed priest MD.

^This, boomer MD from symbiosis is 1 min CD with 1.15 sec cast time.

Still extremely good.  Dispell long cc chains, off heal when Cd not up.

[Hackattack3]

Enim, on 16 February 2013 - 01:05 AM, said:

Please elaborate.

Sure I would be glad to elaborate why I feel balance will be the best 3s arena spec for druid next season.

This season, I think we can agree that comparing feral to balance, feral was better for "small scale" pvp and balance shines with large scale pvp and more targets.  Balance was the stronger spec for RBGs and 5s, feral was king for 2s and 3s.  You could make the point that balance druid might be one of the worst 2s specs in the game.

Now let's look at 5.2:

Resto - several fairly nice buffs (mainly 10% extra healing, 9% reduced mana on rejuv, and 2 extra sec on cyclone from glove enchant).  The nerfs include typhoon CD increase and displacer beast rework (huge).  Although overall rdruids will be stronger in 5.2 than 5.1, its not nearly enough to catch pallys and rshammys, not to mention priests and monks are getting HUGE things.  Rdruid will still be viable due to the unique nature of cyclone, but I would argue being a bottom-tier healer is not a great spot to be in.

Feral vs Balance - 30 sec CD on feral clone will be HUGE.  Toning down Nature's Vigil will hurt feral more than balance since balance has better sustained damage outside of CDs.  Feral and balance were pretty close in 5.1 and if you factor in the hybrid off healing buff alone with the straight damage buffs to starfire/moonfire/starsurge I can't really see how feral could perform better.  


In terms of fantastic symbiosis benefits of balance + teammates.  Rshammy healer = purge and Disc priest gets cyclone.  Although cyclone is 20k mana for disc its game breaking working in a cyclone to setup a fear chain.

[Enim]

Yea, I figured it had more to do with our other specs than boomkin getting buffed.

Too bad, you had me hoping there for a second

I do agree however on the points you made, but it's sad that all three specs now MIGHT become bottom-tier.

Edit: I think typhoon nerf will hit boomkin the hardest :/

Edited by Enim, 16 February 2013 - 11:14 AM.