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#21 Djandawg

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Posted 07 February 2013 - 05:20 PM

View PostViolatrix, on 07 February 2013 - 05:00 PM, said:

I suppose we'll be forced to run with DKs ourselves and just hope that our DK can outmongoloid the enemy mongoloid.
The problem is the design flaw in necrotic strike vs power word: shield. Necrotic strikes pierces through shield, and priest healing is supposed to be weak because we can shield to compensate.Now that dks got purge, it's really rough, to the point of barely surviving while free casting.
I think the assist of ret will be necessary, now that they are getting a dispel too. Ret/dk/priest, ret/hunter/priest ret/rogue/priest are the comps I will attempt to play even though I don't prefer physical cleaves.

Edited by Djandawg, 08 February 2013 - 04:23 AM.


#22 dionim

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Posted 07 February 2013 - 05:21 PM

Priest inv should burst our speed! we have being the only class that have NO MOBILITY at all and having my only cc being meele range.

Edited by dionim, 07 February 2013 - 06:19 PM.


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Posted 07 February 2013 - 06:08 PM

View Postdionim, on 07 February 2013 - 05:21 PM, said:

Priest inv should burst our speed! i have being the only class that have NO MOBILITY at all and having my only cc being meele range.


Thats actually a great idea, + rep

if the fade could give us freedom + maybe 60% speed it would be great

#24 Mirionx

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Posted 07 February 2013 - 06:20 PM

I really don't think this game needs more sprints :/

#25 Mattadoro

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Posted 07 February 2013 - 06:33 PM

body and soul!
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#26 Zeffer

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Posted 07 February 2013 - 06:42 PM

holy fire heals others 28-33k and is instant now + cheap and stacks evangelism. heals urself for half tho but an aight instant to use.
Also good for totem stomping etc. You can also use atonement to heal now with the inc fix meaning u can use it for cheap heals/help with ur shit dmg + you can heal people out of LOS

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Posted 07 February 2013 - 07:02 PM

View Postdionim, on 04 February 2013 - 12:22 PM, said:

me 2, and its after we got the damage soo... we still have lack of defensive cds to work with, we are already good at taking damage, but when we get swap with stun/silence when we get out of it its pretty much auramastery and then you fucked.
so u basically want to tank 2 dpsers without a problem?soz but u missunderstood the whole point of game, its not about tanking 240329423420938 players on u , its about tanking 1 player and ur teamates trying to peel the rest of u so u can survive , please stop posting shit like that like u want ur class to survive everything no matter what.I play priest , and when i use aura mastery and i cast 2 heals i see my hp full in 2 flash heals,  its not as bad as u and djandawg say ....

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Posted 07 February 2013 - 07:10 PM

View PostYarmyxx, on 07 February 2013 - 07:02 PM, said:

so u basically want to tank 2 dpsers without a problem?soz but u missunderstood the whole point of game, its not about tanking 240329423420938 players on u , its about tanking 1 player and ur teamates trying to peel the rest of u so u can survive , please stop posting shit like that like u want ur class to survive everything no matter what.I play priest , and when i use aura mastery and i cast 2 heals i see my hp full in 2 flash heals,  its not as bad as u and djandawg say ....

OmG u CAnt Reason LikE that coz Your not supposed to gET aura mastery heals off when u got dps on u? GooD teams Cc it... badbadbadbad

Priest seems good at the moment, but it will be hard to heal vs for example LSD2 and similar setups without phantasm giving ranged protection.
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#29 Dividium

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Posted 07 February 2013 - 07:26 PM

View PostYarmyxx, on 07 February 2013 - 07:02 PM, said:

and when i use aura mastery and i cast 2 heals i see my hp full in 2 flash heals,  its not as bad as u and djandawg say ....

Aura mastery, good idea.. jk fade nerf. have fun trying to cast during auramastery


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Edited by Dividium, 07 February 2013 - 07:28 PM.


#30 dionim

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Posted 07 February 2013 - 07:36 PM

View PostYarmyxx, on 07 February 2013 - 07:02 PM, said:

so u basically want to tank 2 dpsers without a problem?soz but u missunderstood the whole point of game, its not about tanking 240329423420938 players on u , its about tanking 1 player and ur teamates trying to peel the rest of u so u can survive , please stop posting shit like that like u want ur class to survive everything no matter what.I play priest , and when i use aura mastery and i cast 2 heals i see my hp full in 2 flash heals,  its not as bad as u and djandawg say ....

i guess you play at the 1500 bracket, getting a auramastery cast isnt that easy, also even if you get it and get topped, if the guy stays on you and its not a retard that will kick on the first cast you are FUCKED, because even if you juke the kick his stuns are already back up.

yes we are "decent" at taking damage, and they are buffing it even more.
idk if you play the same game as me, but what i see in the game is

pally double freedom sprint 3 instant cast heals and 4 defensive cds not to count bubble
druid with blink to stealth, travel form, instant heals, barkskin, ironbark, treeform
shaman being more trainable (still less than priest) having freedom, link, ns, auramastery while running, ascendance, nature guardian, ghost wolf

priest having fade (lol being immune to slow but still running at the same speed as the guys raping you with 10212010212 ways to get closer to you), PS, auramastery, LOLBARRIER, life swap (as disc is not even close a good cd compared to tree, link, bubble)

i think you got why priest IS DECENT AT TANKING AND THEY ARE BUFFING IT EVEN MORE.

ps. now we are the healer that cast the most in arenas =)

Edited by dionim, 07 February 2013 - 07:38 PM.


#31 Djandawg

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Posted 07 February 2013 - 07:46 PM

View PostYarmyxx, on 07 February 2013 - 07:02 PM, said:

when i use aura mastery and i cast 2 heals i see my hp full in 2 flash heals.
Well holy spark and inner focus crit affect the next spell and then there is battle fatigue , ms effect etc, but I think you are being generous when you say I go to full hp when I cast 2 flash heals. I think next 4 generations of your family also go to full hp. I even saw on the news that an angry group of resto shamans were marching to the Blizzard building yelling wtf flash heal heals more than our 200k ns heals.

Every melee has like 2 of stuns/grips/disorients, just because you Yarmyxx outskill 2 of them by hypnotizing into not using those during inner focus in the bracket you play, it doesn't mean they don't use it on others. So excluding you and 3 priests above 2400 in EU; less gifted priests like us are really struggling, especially if we don't like playing KFC or melee cleave.
As always, thanks for your realistic and enlightening post.

Edited by Djandawg, 08 February 2013 - 04:23 AM.


#32 watchmepwn

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Posted 11 February 2013 - 03:31 PM

Been playing priest on ptr in 2s. They're kinda good. Good heals, good surviving.

Only class that been giving me (some) troubles were dk's (never been different).

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Posted 13 February 2013 - 02:00 AM

20% mindblast base damage and scaling w/ sp.. why...??

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Posted 13 February 2013 - 02:28 AM

View Postmajorblood, on 13 February 2013 - 02:00 AM, said:

20% mindblast base damage and scaling w/ sp.. why...??

They buffing the wrong way, we dont need more dmg. Nerfing fade and let disperse be on shadow school was a bad nerf imo(since were getting trained most of the game by melee). Buffing dmg is not the way to compensate. Developers are clueless.

#35 Nitric

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Posted 13 February 2013 - 02:39 AM

Is disperse still on shadow school? I thought they reverted that.

But yeah, 20% more dmg, rofl.

#36 Korzul

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Posted 13 February 2013 - 03:26 AM

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20% mindblast base damage and scaling w/ sp.. why...??

These are DPS tuning adjustments for PvE, the effect on PvP isn't even a consideration yet.
GC stated less than a week ago.

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We may change a number one day and change it again the next when we look at AE or PvP damage or whatever.

Blizzard logic is quite simple when it comes to this sort of stuff:

Shadow's low on single target damage in raids,
People like hitting relatively hard (gives a feeling of empowerment, people being joyful because "OMFG checking recount a sec i just like mindblast that mob for X00k" instead of "Yeah my dot now hits for 400 more per tick").
Buffing something high up on the prio list nulifies the risk of screwing up the prio list and forcing people to change from a rotation blizz like and decided "flows correctly" etc.

And tada - Mind Blast buff.

If it's too good next time they discuss PvP they may revert it, but for the PvE issue at hand that's their favoured solution.
I'm also guessing not everyone is in each of these developer meets so and they'll have a list of backups to consider should someone veto the change in any of the future meets before it gets to live.

#37 Lolcowz

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Posted 05 March 2013 - 05:28 AM

what do you guys think about giving disc back desperate prayer again, along with all the other talents?

#38 dionim

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Posted 05 March 2013 - 07:39 AM

angelic buwark being undispelable makes desperate prayer the last choice ever

#39 Draakex

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Posted 05 March 2013 - 08:31 PM

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Shadow Word: Pain damage increased by 25%.
was definitely needed!...
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Posted 08 March 2013 - 12:13 PM

Disc seems really strong, dks still rape you though but we've had the problem ever since NS




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