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#1 Donald

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 06:50 PM

http://us.battle.net...ic/7811151137#1

Idk how one is supposed to get Blizz to notice bugs, but it probably has something to do with threads on their forums?

"I believe that the idea behind Shadow Priest mana is that keeping good Vampiric Touch dot uptime should mean that you will be able to manage your mana. However, in arena when you go against a Discipline Priest or anything else with alot of shields, you go out of mana because Vamp Touch isn't "dealing damage." I don't want to think that it's intended for us to play well and be unable to have enough mana to play on a technicality. It should be a bug that VT doesn't restore mana when absorbed.

Unstable Affliciton dispel protection silence has never diminished with itself. In early Cataclysm, sin and punishment dispel protection horrify diminished with itself, and with Psychic Horror. Blizz fixed that half way through Cataclysm. MoP is out, and once again sin and punishment (now our 4 piece set bonus) diminishes with itself, and with Psychic Horror. I don't want to think that is intended since they already fixed sin and punishment once in Cataclysm to make it consistent with Unstable Affliction dispel protection."

http://us.battle.net...ic/7811151137#1

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#2 Bamflol

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 06:55 PM

just b.c they're nerfing spriest healing anyway, why not just make VT like so: After you cast a successful VT, you gain 10% of your max mana.
Every other caster has unlimited mana regen, and spriests healing will be dog shit, so why not just let them get alot of mana and reward them for getting casts off.

#3 wtfbro

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 07:31 PM

View PostBamflol, on 31 January 2013 - 06:55 PM, said:

just b.c they're nerfing spriest healing anyway, why not just make VT like so: After you cast a successful VT, you gain 10% of your max mana.
Every other caster has unlimited mana regen, and spriests healing will be dog shit, so why not just let them get alot of mana and reward them for getting casts off.

spriest healing nerf will most likely be reverted and nothing will be done to MD.. just go read the official forums and ALL the pve heroes are whining about these nerfs and how it will affect shadow pve (which is dogshit atm and brought to raids only for its utilities such as off healing and MD dispells that are mandatory in most fights).
Also i still dont understand why they are nerfing healing even more.. i'm ilvl 491 and in arena i do 30-35k flash heals (40-45k depending on procs) that are pretty dogshit atm with the 410k+ healthpools in full gear

Edited by wtfbro, 31 January 2013 - 07:35 PM.


#4 amirdaheat

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 07:31 PM

Every time a healer dispels my VT on CD and watching him get immune to my so called dispel protection:
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Posted 31 January 2013 - 07:35 PM

Fake and gay. Learn to dispel priest shields

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 07:39 PM

Totally agree with this thread.
Buff shadow priests as much as you can please. They are shit at the moment.

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 07:40 PM

nerf warlocks
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#8 Vengeânce1296684277

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 07:45 PM

View PostRetset, on 31 January 2013 - 07:39 PM, said:

Totally agree with this thread.
Buff shadow priests as much as you can please. They are shit at the moment.

Its more of a quality of life kind of thing rather than a direct buff.  Don't know why you're so upset when you can run Ret KFC.  You made triple dps work last season, make it work again?

As an example, playing against something like RMP, where the disc priest applies alot of "trash" buffs, on top of Ice Barrier + Power Word: Shield, spending 7 globals to remove every buff isn't worth it, as everything is back off CD and reapplied before you can dispel it all.  Not to mention, with mage armor, dot duration is much less which equates to increased reapplication of dots, aka ooming much faster.  It's not something I'm extremely concerned about or think that it absolutely must be changed, but it seems like Blizzard misses out on so many things like this that it probably isn't intended to work this way.

Edited by Vengeânce1296684277, 31 January 2013 - 07:52 PM.


#9 Nisslol

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 08:14 PM

View PostRetset, on 31 January 2013 - 07:39 PM, said:

Totally agree with this thread.
Buff shadow priests as much as you can please. They are shit at the moment.


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#10 Braindance

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 08:15 PM

Why would a caster care about mana? Yes fix it!

View PostZerstiren, on 14 August 2011 - 01:21 AM, said:

If you haven't +repped this guy, you are part of the problem.

View PostRenaissance_Man, on 31 July 2013 - 04:31 AM, said:

If I had a gun with two bullets and I was in a room with Hitler, bin Laden, and you, I would shoot you twice.

View Postsimonfra1234, on 25 August 2011 - 08:46 PM, said:

bro you got +rep'd by rapture...

#11 zsuper

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Posted 03 February 2013 - 08:21 AM

View PostBraindance, on 31 January 2013 - 08:15 PM, said:

Why would a caster care about mana? Yes fix it!

The problem is that we're the only caster that cares about mana and our only mana cooldown is our only defensive cooldown. If too many VT ticks get absorbed (or even if they don't get absorbed, our mana doesn't break even when multi DoTing), we go OOM and then we can do fuck all for the rest of the match.

#12 Braindance

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Posted 03 February 2013 - 08:25 AM

View Postzsuper, on 03 February 2013 - 08:21 AM, said:

The problem is that we're the only caster that cares about mana and our only mana cooldown is our only defensive cooldown. If too many VT ticks get absorbed (or even if they don't get absorbed, our mana doesn't break even when multi DoTing), we go OOM and then we can do fuck all for the rest of the match.
That is what I am saying. Every caster should care about mana. This design is fine - besides all melees lose their resources if their attacks get parried or dodged. And you are supposed to go oom - that's why you have mana and not energy or rage or anything else.

View PostZerstiren, on 14 August 2011 - 01:21 AM, said:

If you haven't +repped this guy, you are part of the problem.

View PostRenaissance_Man, on 31 July 2013 - 04:31 AM, said:

If I had a gun with two bullets and I was in a room with Hitler, bin Laden, and you, I would shoot you twice.

View Postsimonfra1234, on 25 August 2011 - 08:46 PM, said:

bro you got +rep'd by rapture...

#13 Virent

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Posted 03 February 2013 - 11:50 AM

View PostBraindance, on 03 February 2013 - 08:25 AM, said:

That is what I am saying. Every caster should care about mana. This design is fine - besides all melees lose their resources if their attacks get parried or dodged. And you are supposed to go oom - that's why you have mana and not energy or rage or anything else.

Last I checked, rogues/ferals don't lose their combo points and/or energy. That's why it is not even amongst the highest priorities in PvE to actually get the hit cap as a feral.
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Posted 03 February 2013 - 12:15 PM

i only go oom against melee cleaves that chain interrupts my VTs and the ones that i do get off gets dispelled instantly gg. The worst is kittycleave where you simply cant cast a single thing and you simply go oom from the skullbash bullshit lmao.
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#15 Falla

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Posted 03 February 2013 - 12:24 PM

Love casting with mana burn on me even if you do fake the bulllshit

#16 Iambored

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Posted 03 February 2013 - 01:21 PM

Ret/Enhance regen on Judgement/Stormstrike had this problem in wrath, hopefully it gets fixed.

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Posted 03 February 2013 - 02:14 PM

View Postamirdaheat, on 31 January 2013 - 07:31 PM, said:

Every time a healer dispels my VT on CD and watching him get immune to my so called dispel protection:
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I liked that damage received after dispeling VT much more =/
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Posted 03 February 2013 - 04:10 PM

Good post Donny. I would really like to see those fixed as well. I have considered not using the 4 piece at all because of how the DR works, and against any teams with Priest/Mage/Pally you can just see the difference in mana.

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Posted 03 February 2013 - 05:30 PM

View PostDotaphd, on 31 January 2013 - 07:35 PM, said:

Fake and gay. Learn to dispel priest shields


i thoguht dispeling priest shield gave them the right to cast it again? that debuff goes off? or well thats how it was for me when i was dispeling a friend 10min ago testing on my sp

#20 Vengeânce1296684277

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Posted 03 February 2013 - 06:56 PM

View PostTalbadar, on 03 February 2013 - 04:10 PM, said:

Good post Donny. I would really like to see those fixed as well. I have considered not using the 4 piece at all because of how the DR works, and against any teams with Priest/Mage/Pally you can just see the difference in mana.

Most... annoying... thing.




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