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#1 thrudgel

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 02:31 PM

All Subscribers Are Not Equal

Blizzard’s current claim that they have 11.5 million total subscribers while technically accurate is misleading because not all subscribers are paying the same to play WoW. Some of us already familiar with the Asian pay per play scheme for MMOs but I highly doubt the average WoW gamer in the U.S. and Europe would be aware of this.
For every dollar a non-Asian WoW subscriber pays for WoW an Asian subscriber pays 6 cents. The reality is that all WoW subscribers are not equal; they do not have equal representative value for purposes of comparison. Yet for purposes of marketing and to the untrained eye: a subscriber is a subscriber.

If there are 5.75 million WoW subscribers in Asia only bringing in 6% of the total worldwide WoW revenue then I have calculated that in terms of “real” subscribers the Asian market is the equivalent of approximately 370, 000 U.S. and European subscribers who pay to play by the month. Combine this with the actual numbers of U.S. and European subscribers and you’d have an adjusted total of approximately 6.12 million subscribers playing WoW — not the 11.5 subscribers that they claimed in their last press release.
The resulting 6.12 million subscribers is a bit more than half the number that they claim that WoW actually has. Suddenly WoW doesn’t look like a social and cultural juggernaut.
Are Westerners Subsidizing Asian MMO Gamers?

Given the puny amount of revenue that Blizzard is generating from WoW in Asia, why aren’t they charging Asians more and the rest of us less? Fair is fair.
Another issue worth bringing up is because of the millions of Asian gamers with access to WoW we now have the scourge of gold farmers with ties to organized crime syndicates. Player accounts are hacked, stolen and used to farm gold. They also disrupt gameplay within WoW with their spam. Blizzard spends a considerable amount of time and resources dealing with compromised accounts.
Given all of these problems and inequities, why are western subscribers still subsidizing Asian gamers?

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#2 Superkåre

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 02:41 PM

interesting statistics, but what's your point?

#3 Naatzors

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 02:44 PM

Pretty sure i used to pay 13euro/month while the US was paying 13dollar/month

I stopped playing already because i did not want to subsidize US players to play the game.
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#4 thrudgel

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 02:51 PM

View PostSuperkåre, on 31 January 2013 - 02:41 PM, said:

interesting statistics, but what's your point?
Well first thing I thought of was if a new account/subscription is so easy to get and cheap, there is little to no consequence for cheating/hacking in pvp.

The pvE game is mildly effected so it really doesn't matter overall

$0.90 / month subscription is pretty hilarious when you consider that USA owes China Trillions

Edited by thrudgel, 31 January 2013 - 03:04 PM.


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Posted 31 January 2013 - 03:06 PM

View Postthrudgel, on 31 January 2013 - 02:51 PM, said:

Well first thing I thought of was if a new account/subscription is so easy to get and cheap, there is little to no consequence for cheating/hacking in pvp.

The pvE game is mildly effected so it really doesn't matter overall

$0.90 / month subscription is pretty hilarious when you consider that USA owes China Trillions
What do we care about asian cheaters? Different servers
Also 90cent for Chinese players is A LOT (well most of them to be exact)

I understand your idea, but I dont think you thought this through

#6 thrudgel

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 03:11 PM

View PostPawzz, on 31 January 2013 - 03:06 PM, said:

What do we care about asian cheaters? Different servers
Also 90cent for Chinese players is A LOT (well most of them to be exact)

I understand your idea, but I dont think you thought this through
agreed, oh well

#7 dionim

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 03:11 PM

every country has diferent economy

if you get more money cuz of work or w/e, stuff will be more expensive.

thats the same if you compare other countrys or even other states or cities...

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 03:13 PM

this is actually the dumbest thing i've ever read in my life.

if they have 11.5 million subs, they have 11.5 million subs no matter if every single one of them pay a different price.

also, If gold spam "disrupts" anyones gameplay they are pretty stupid, it was never "disruptive" of gameplay, and in fact at times it was hilarious (floating web site names made out of orc bodies anyone?).

tl;dr no one cares

#9 Ayrasaurus

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 03:19 PM

I'm pretty sure most of the Chinese players couldn't afford the $14.20 EU players have to pay each month.

I'm sure not everything i say is 100percent accurate but if you just Google it around 70% of Chinese people live on less than $5 a day. With 62% on less than $4 and 32% on less than $2.5.

This might be wrong/outdated but ye they earn nothing close to what people in EU/US earn so it would be stupid to even ask them to pay more than what a family lives on for 3-4 days each month.

Edited by Ayraswag, 31 January 2013 - 03:23 PM.

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#10 Pawzz

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 03:20 PM

View Posthairpiece, on 31 January 2013 - 03:13 PM, said:

(floating web site names made out of orc bodies anyone?).
I miss those

#11 Doggiedawgz

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 04:13 PM

You have to work hard 2 days and spend all the money u got for a month sub in my country ... and we are still forced to pay 13euro. Bulgaria wcyd

#12 Snuggli

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 05:28 PM

this just in: blizzard is actually a business.

View PostBraindance, on 11 October 2013 - 12:44 PM, said:

Go listen to some Bieber shit and leave me alone fucko.

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 05:45 PM

I have a friend who lives in china and her monthly salary is about $350, which is less than what someone with a normal salary in sweden for example would make in 3 days, and that sir is why you cannot charge them €12.99

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 06:24 PM

View Postthrudgel, on 31 January 2013 - 02:51 PM, said:

Well first thing I thought of was if a new account/subscription is so easy to get and cheap, there is little to no consequence for cheating/hacking in pvp.

The pvE game is mildly effected so it really doesn't matter overall

$0.90 / month subscription is pretty hilarious when you consider that USA owes China Trillions

That statement is incredibly false, and any person with even a small grasp of how the US debt works would know that.

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Posted 01 February 2013 - 03:22 AM

The minimum work wage in USA (depending on the state and county ofc) is around $8 an hour.

U'd be thankful to get $8 a day in China... The Chinese economy is completely different. Most of the food in China is less than a quarter of the price we pay in America and the wage is even smaller.
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Posted 01 February 2013 - 04:05 AM

View Postdjp771133, on 31 January 2013 - 06:24 PM, said:

That statement is incredibly false, and any person with even a small grasp of how the US debt works would know that.

Pretty much this, only about $1.15ish trillion of the total debt is owed to china, the majority of the US debt is actually owed to the US.

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Posted 01 February 2013 - 04:25 AM

View PostVanguards, on 01 February 2013 - 03:22 AM, said:

U'd


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Posted 01 February 2013 - 04:42 AM


"The story begins in 1913, when the government of China began issuing bonds to foreigninvestors and governments for infrastructure work to modernize the country. As the country fell into civil war in 1927, paying these debts became increasingly difficult and the government fell into default. Even so, in April 1938, the Nationalist government of China began to issue U.S.-dollar denominated bonds to finance its war against Japan.

The government issued these bonds into 1940, and the U.S. government further provided a $500 million credit to China in March 1942. China doesn’t appear to have repaid this debt either, according to State Department records.

The new Communist government in 1949 refused to pay any of these claims. In 1979, as part of normalizing relations, Washington released government financial claims regarding the expropriation of American property and appears to have dropped the matter of the war debt entirely.

However, it is one thing for government decision-makers to let go of government debt. And it is another thing for individual citizens to press their claims. Some U.S. investors tried to sue the Chinese government in the 1980s and 1990s, but the Foreign Sovereign Immunities Act makes it hard because the law generally says U.S. courts do not have jurisdiction.

China lost an initial summary judgment for failing to appear in court but, with the urging of the U.S. State Department, later appeared in court and successfully argued U.S. courts did not have jurisdiction.

Today, the Chinese bonds held by U.S. investors may be worth as much as $750 billion, according to Jonna Bianco, president of the American Bondholders Foundation."


and the plot thickens


#19 angelownzz

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Posted 01 February 2013 - 07:10 AM

that's 10.80 Chinese Dongs a year. that's a lot of Dongs.

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Posted 01 February 2013 - 07:25 AM

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