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[Coldizzle]

Ctuhlu, on 25 January 2013 - 10:26 PM, said:

Basically, people want instant CC removed from the game as long as it's not their class that has to give it up.

PoM>Alter Time should be removed
and they should also make RoF work like Cata(1.5 cd ofc) and make RoF get DR with Deep again

Edited by Coldizzle, 26 January 2013 - 12:48 AM.

[ImSoberlol]

Blizzard making me love them again.


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[Djandawg]

Zilea, on 26 January 2013 - 12:17 AM, said:

People need to remember , when you complain about melee cleaves: warrior cleaves and feral cleaves are gone next patch . KFC is most likely done , especially with the increased strength of monk and rogues coming . Rogue + monk cleaves may become overpowered but warrior and feral cleaves are done . Veev is going back to warlock , that's how bad it's going to be for warriors next patch

The same person who predicted that after gag order and avatar mobility nerf the class would be unplayable?

[Rhetorical1]

good now mages can go back to soloing pallies again.

[Talbadar]

Capstone, on 25 January 2013 - 11:22 PM, said:

it has come to my attention that there is a dev reading the thread so i'm here to pass along some ideas about the game

I'm sure they will use your feedback to create a better game for us all.

[djp771133]

so if you are reading this dev, can you please revert overpower rage cost?  There are several threads here explaining why it is a crippling change to pvp warrior

[wambafat]

Zilea, on 26 January 2013 - 12:17 AM, said:

People need to remember , when you complain about melee cleaves: warrior cleaves and feral cleaves are gone next patch . KFC is most likely done , especially with the increased strength of monk and rogues coming . Rogue + monk cleaves may become overpowered but warrior and feral cleaves are done . Veev is going back to warlock , that's how bad it's going to be for warriors next patch

We'rent you complaining about resto druids after 5.1 because Shouri outplayed you and barely got a couple wins from it?

[Maticzor]

Athená, on 26 January 2013 - 12:24 AM, said:

Not to bothered about this reversion, I really don't feel that mages are OP anymore atm.
Except for the idiotic PoM given to frost, that is just plain retarded. I've litterally had matches above 2.4k mmr where the only time a mage would get a ring/poly off is with PoM, disgusting.

Well look at the current state of the game, if you are saying that the only time a mage would get a ring/poly off is with pom, and they removed pom, then how would a mage get a poly/ring off? not saying its impossible but pom 1.5 min cd, I don't think its "That op". Mages are in a good state now, read the first sentence you wrote. If anything that needs nerf now its shamans totem restoration and SP defensive MD.

[wtfbro]

Maticzor, on 26 January 2013 - 03:04 AM, said:

Well look at the current state of the game, if you are saying that the only time a mage would get a ring/poly off is with pom, and they removed pom, then how would a mage get a poly/ring off? not saying its impossible but pom 1.5 min cd, I don't think its "That op". Mages are in a good state now, read the first sentence you wrote. If anything that needs nerf now its shamans totem restoration and SP defensive MD.

you didn't seem to care about md before the blanket cs nerf .. now that it's back why are you still complaining?
or do you just want mages to be uncounterable by any class?

Edited by wtfbro, 26 January 2013 - 03:19 AM.

[Radejjj]

As much as I liked the change it probably wouldnt have worked with the way the game currently is. Still no rogue nerfs though lol

Maticzor, on 26 January 2013 - 03:04 AM, said:

Well look at the current state of the game, if you are saying that the only time a mage would get a ring/poly off is with pom, and they removed pom, then how would a mage get a poly/ring off? not saying its impossible but pom 1.5 min cd, I don't think its "That op". Mages are in a good state now, read the first sentence you wrote. If anything that needs nerf now its shamans totem restoration and SP defensive MD.

PoM->Alter Time is a problem, shouldnt be able to do them together. And increase the cd on Pom to 2 minutes so it aligns with trinket, than it's probably fine, but I agree mages are in are relatively good spot right now, they could use some tweaks is all. Everyone agrees that spriests and totemic restoration need to be nerfed though.

Edited by Radejjj, 26 January 2013 - 03:49 AM.

[rtcinema]

Nerf defensive MD and make VT dispel not DR itself.  As far as life swap and disperse sharing DR, that's a hard sell.  That's like saying after a priest swaps a mage he can't ice block, pally bubble, hunter deterrence, warrior shield wall, monk use his disperse thing, etc...

[Icekingx]

DK tears.

[Jepedo]

burbery is dookie

[Conradical]

can ferals be nerfed
can warriors be nerfed
can spriests be nerfed
can mages have to cast spells again
can warlocks try to get dots up instead of doing it instantly
can hunters not kill me with pets
can i please not trinket into another 5 instant CCs

plz

[Dakkrothy]

I have split thoughts bout this change, I honestly wouldn't mind one nor the other.


Removing blankets would defo make classes such as spriest, dks & ele  shammies way stronger as their interupts / blanket silenced would be more desirable. However, from a healer point of view I'd rather see every single blanket silence (including dk & spriest silences) removed from the game, there's already enough interupts & instant cc in the game.

I'd love to see more spells & abilities like Frostjaw (casted silence spell), simply cuz you can actually do something about it. Instant cc is bad design in my opinion, at least the overwhelming amounts of different instant cc in the game.

Anything that makes you lose control of your character completely & that is unavoidable is just well.... frustrating.

Give every healer a shadow word death / grounding effect to be able to avoid cc (with a reasonable CD on it ofc so you gotta think twice to show urself in the open within the next 15-20 secs)

Put every single cc in the game a cast time(including silences, but perhaps make it channeled cast or w/e).

If those changes were in the game you'd seperate good & less good players very quickly.


But these are just my thoughts, you can think whatever THE FUCK you wanna think

Edited by Dakkrothy, 26 January 2013 - 04:43 AM.

[majorblood]

Conradical, on 26 January 2013 - 04:34 AM, said:

can ferals be nerfed
can warriors be nerfed
can spriests be nerfed
can mages have to cast spells again
can warlocks get buffed to overlord status
can hunters not kill me with pets
can i please not trinket into another 5 instant CCs

plz

fixed

[flannelsoff]

dont think dks will be crying about casters in 5.2 lol..

[Icekingx]

flannelsoff, on 26 January 2013 - 04:43 AM, said:

dont think dks will be crying about casters in 5.2 lol..

Most DKs were crying about dying in blanket CS but yes with some of the dk buffs I do see what you mean .

[Snuggli]

Dakkrothy, on 26 January 2013 - 04:41 AM, said:

Give every healer a shadow word death / grounding effect to be able to avoid cc (with a reasonable CD on it ofc so you gotta think twice to show urself in the open within the next 15-20 secs)

To be fair, Holy Paladins have hand of sac which (granted it is dispellable which sucks for them) can break a lot of instant CC. The only class without any real immunity to instant CC is Rdruid, but they can shift poly and hex and should rely on HoTs to heal people which tick while they're in CC anyway.

On the one hand it'd be cool if every class has a SW:D type-spell, but it'd probably feel too samey. Burst needs to be toned down and CC needs to be moved to casted rather than instant, then i'd be happy. Less random 3-4 global gibs on partners while you're in a DRd CC and more 10-20s casted CC chains which cause pressure and can lead to wins.

[Cobeliany]

Dakkrothy, on 26 January 2013 - 04:41 AM, said:

But these are just my thoughts, you can think whatever THE FUCK you wanna think

hodgetwins? o.o