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#81 Braindance

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Posted 23 January 2013 - 02:15 AM

View PostSilhin, on 23 January 2013 - 02:11 AM, said:

And you guys act like the warrior r gonna go back to being the trained class yet you forget back then u didnt have new ability u got now like Die by the sword banners shock wave shorter cd on fear U make it seem like there NOTHING YOU can do once they start focusing you I assure u if a good warrior wants to stay alive there alot he can do while being trained and i don't wanna hear the bull crap oh but iam not doing damage while being trained most class don't do any damage while being trained
We had enrage and we could get rage. Now "NEED MORE RAGE". I explained in very simple terms how rage works this expansion. Defstance next season=1 mortal stike and 1 overpower every 5 seconds with NO other globals used. IT'S NOT BC- IT'S NOT CATA- IT'S NOT WOTLK.

WE

GET

NO

RAGE

IN

DEF

STANCE

View PostZerstiren, on 14 August 2011 - 01:21 AM, said:

If you haven't +repped this guy, you are part of the problem.

View PostRenaissance_Man, on 31 July 2013 - 04:31 AM, said:

If I had a gun with two bullets and I was in a room with Hitler, bin Laden, and you, I would shoot you twice.

View Postsimonfra1234, on 25 August 2011 - 08:46 PM, said:

bro you got +rep'd by rapture...

#82 Hoodzx

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Posted 23 January 2013 - 02:20 AM

Dont know if blizzard reads arenajunkies but they should, battlenet forums are full of deep shit lol...

#83 Silhin

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Posted 23 January 2013 - 02:22 AM

View PostBraindance, on 23 January 2013 - 02:15 AM, said:

We had enrage and we could get rage. Now "NEED MORE RAGE". I explained in very simple terms how rage works this expansion. Defstance next season=1 mortal stike and 1 overpower every 5 seconds with NO other globals used. IT'S NOT BC- IT'S NOT CATA- IT'S NOT WOTLK.

WE

GET

NO

RAGE

IN

DEF

STANCE

View PostBraindance, on 23 January 2013 - 02:15 AM, said:

We had enrage and we could get rage. Now "NEED MORE RAGE". I explained in very simple terms how rage works this expansion. Defstance next season=1 mortal stike and 1 overpower every 5 seconds with NO other globals used. IT'S NOT BC- IT'S NOT CATA- IT'S NOT WOTLK.

WE

GET

NO

RAGE

IN

DEF

STANCE

Simple Fix Go in battle Stance OH SHITZ WHOA !!!!!!!

Oh no i might die! cuz iam in battle stance OH NO!!!!!

On a Srs note how much do you warrior get focused right now In arenas?

Like lets be honest isn't it like Never? I seen streams/Even last tourny And warrior Almost never got focused In arena rarely Now as a warrior why do you think this is ? Hmmmmm....

#84 Braindance

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Posted 23 January 2013 - 02:32 AM

View PostSilhin, on 23 January 2013 - 02:22 AM, said:

Simple Fix Go in battle Stance OH SHITZ WHOA !!!!!!!

Oh no i might die! cuz iam in battle stance OH NO!!!!!

On a Srs note how much do you warrior get focused right now In arenas?

Like lets be honest isn't it like Never? I seen streams/Even last tourny And warrior Almost never got focused In arena rarely Now as a warrior why do you think this is ? Hmmmmm....
Again - the rage costs of our abilities are the same more or less as they were in cata WITH THE MAJOR DIFFERENCE that EVEN IN BATTLE STANCE we get 70% LESS RAGE than we used to get. Even in battle stance YOU WON'T BE ABLE TO MAINTAIN A ROTATION. What is hard to understand

View PostZerstiren, on 14 August 2011 - 01:21 AM, said:

If you haven't +repped this guy, you are part of the problem.

View PostRenaissance_Man, on 31 July 2013 - 04:31 AM, said:

If I had a gun with two bullets and I was in a room with Hitler, bin Laden, and you, I would shoot you twice.

View Postsimonfra1234, on 25 August 2011 - 08:46 PM, said:

bro you got +rep'd by rapture...

#85 Hoodzx

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Posted 23 January 2013 - 02:45 AM

View PostBraindance, on 23 January 2013 - 02:32 AM, said:

Again - the rage costs of our abilities are the same more or less as they were in cata WITH THE MAJOR DIFFERENCE that EVEN IN BATTLE STANCE we get 70% LESS RAGE than we used to get. Even in battle stance YOU WON'T BE ABLE TO MAINTAIN A ROTATION. What is hard to understand

I think we can lock the thread after this, nothing more to say. :(

#86 Braindance

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Posted 23 January 2013 - 02:49 AM

View PostHoodzx, on 23 January 2013 - 02:45 AM, said:

I think we can lock the thread after this, nothing more to say. :(
No don't I'm having fun

View PostZerstiren, on 14 August 2011 - 01:21 AM, said:

If you haven't +repped this guy, you are part of the problem.

View PostRenaissance_Man, on 31 July 2013 - 04:31 AM, said:

If I had a gun with two bullets and I was in a room with Hitler, bin Laden, and you, I would shoot you twice.

View Postsimonfra1234, on 25 August 2011 - 08:46 PM, said:

bro you got +rep'd by rapture...

#87 Hoodzx

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Posted 23 January 2013 - 03:11 AM

View PostBraindance, on 23 January 2013 - 02:49 AM, said:

No don't I'm having fun

Lol then...

Warriors will be OP like S11 next season in arms spec if the overpower change goes live :)

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Posted 23 January 2013 - 03:25 AM

hold up a minute...
is blizzard serious???

theyre trying to make warriors just like every other class in the game? theyre making warriors kill able?
my mentally retarded step brother cant get 2.4k mindlessly as warrior anymore?

theyre taking away infinite rage from warriors???
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#89 Knox556

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Posted 23 January 2013 - 03:29 AM

Over the top yes - but there should still be a consequence for being in defensive stance.

Sitting in blood presence fuck's DK's rotation up as well (obviously not to the extent of this nerf currently) but don't come back and say that we don't need to sit in it because any physical cleave team that trains us the whole match will force us to sit in it.

but like I said before I feel like there still needs to be something to prevent you from literally sitting in it the whole match without consequence.

#90 Hoodzx

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Posted 23 January 2013 - 03:34 AM

View PostKnox556, on 23 January 2013 - 03:29 AM, said:

Over the top yes - but there should still be a consequence for being in defensive stance.

Sitting in blood presence fuck's DK's rotation up as well (obviously not to the extent of this nerf currently) but don't come back and say that we don't need to sit in it because any physical cleave team that trains us the whole match will force us to sit in it.

but like I said before I feel like there still needs to be something to prevent you from literally sitting in it the whole match without consequence.

yes, thats why a lot of people miss the stance dance of wotlk.

View Postitsrambo23, on 23 January 2013 - 03:25 AM, said:

hold up a minute...
is blizzard serious???

theyre trying to make warriors just like every other class in the game? theyre making warriors kill able?
my mentally retarded step brother cant get 2.4k mindlessly as warrior anymore?

theyre taking away infinite rage from warriors???

Waht ?

#91 Rynd

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Posted 23 January 2013 - 04:48 AM

i feel like if u are a warrior and u want to do dmg u should use battle stance.. why do u need to have 15% dmg reduction all the time? u already have a lot of cds and ways to protect yourself

#92 Duncan

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Posted 23 January 2013 - 05:16 AM

View PostRynd, on 23 January 2013 - 04:48 AM, said:

i feel like if u are a warrior and u want to do dmg u should use battle stance.. why do u need to have 15% dmg reduction all the time? u already have a lot of cds and ways to protect yourself

90% of the time cds are to counter other players cds/cc chains, if we sat in battle stance we literally would be popping them to survive one person let alone 2.  I seriously suggest all of you that are suggesting that were just complaining/want to stay op in d stance that is not it, we just don't want to be dead all the time.

If you don't believe me have any dps go duel a warrior in battle stance without him changing or just hit them watch the #'s global him you will feel like your hitting a clothie without shields.

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Posted 23 January 2013 - 05:47 AM

View PostKnox556, on 23 January 2013 - 03:29 AM, said:

Over the top yes - but there should still be a consequence for being in defensive stance.

Sitting in blood presence fuck's DK's rotation up as well (obviously not to the extent of this nerf currently) but don't come back and say that we don't need to sit in it because any physical cleave team that trains us the whole match will force us to sit in it.

but like I said before I feel like there still needs to be something to prevent you from literally sitting in it the whole match without consequence.

U are absolutely right, this change makes d stance used solely for being defensive. Problem is look at all the best classes right now, everyone of them have a passive dmr with out sacrificing dmg including warriors. In 5.2 we are losing the ability to do dmg with the passive dmr. 10% dmr in battle and leave d as is would fix everything.

Realistically with the burst in game, every class should have 10-15% passive dmr with out sacrificing dmg.
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Posted 23 January 2013 - 07:58 AM

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Posted 23 January 2013 - 08:33 AM

View PostYarmyxx, on 22 January 2013 - 02:21 PM, said:

so now wars have to swap stances?damn thats some effort right there
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Posted 23 January 2013 - 12:11 PM

Just wait for the patch day, go play some 3s and train a warrior from start to finish then come back here and remember this thread. Pretty much useless to argue and try to convince to these ppl who don't play warrior that this nerf is gonna hurt and make warriors 1# target to train since the only vision in their mind is the dying in shockwave, warbringer etc. They can't have the sympathy for us because what warriors did this season, so in their mind everything is justified and the more the better you know.

Edited by Moshe, 23 January 2013 - 12:13 PM.


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Posted 23 January 2013 - 12:33 PM

View Postdjp771133, on 22 January 2013 - 07:59 PM, said:

SO many idiots.  Do they not realize most if not all classes have passive reduction?  Spriests shadowform, lock fel armor, rogues can have recoup+feint(still flop over but it's something).  Mage has molten armor, dks blood presence, even hunters get 15% with the aspect, you get the point.  Most classes at this point have 10-15% damage reduct, and taking away from warriors is retarded.

All they need to fix this is give 15% to battle stance, or take off ragecost of overpower.  Nerf to 15% was fine and needed, but you CANNOT play in defensive stance with no rage, and going battlestance is just not an option (warriors have terrible defensive cds).


What do Enhancement shamans have as passive except 5% from rockbiter that gives me 20%  dmg done reduction.

Problem with warriors is that they barely got any weakness compared to other classes.  What i mean with this is there is noone who goes "YES A WARRIOR".  Before warrior was super weak vs mages because of the snares now warriors got insane mobility compared to before.

Defensive stance should be used to go defensive not be used while you pop recklessnes and going offensive. They removed stance dancing which unfortunately removed some skill in being able to dance around with your warrior more i remember this made the huge difference back in the days between warriors and thats Blizzards retarded decision.

When i face warrior now days if its some multi rank 1 warrior or some challenger with same gear there is barely any different that separates them.

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Posted 23 January 2013 - 12:46 PM

View Postitsrambo23, on 23 January 2013 - 03:25 AM, said:

hold up a minute...
is blizzard serious???

theyre trying to make warriors just like every other class in the game? theyre making warriors kill able?
my mentally retarded step brother cant get 2.4k mindlessly as warrior anymore?

theyre taking away infinite rage from warriors???


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Posted 23 January 2013 - 01:38 PM

View PostClaynz, on 23 January 2013 - 12:33 PM, said:

What do Enhancement shamans have as passive except 5% from rockbiter that gives me 20%  dmg done reduction.

Problem with warriors is that they barely got any weakness compared to other classes.  What i mean with this is there is noone who goes "YES A WARRIOR".  Before warrior was super weak vs mages because of the snares now warriors got insane mobility compared to before.

Defensive stance should be used to go defensive not be used while you pop recklessnes and going offensive. They removed stance dancing which unfortunately removed some skill in being able to dance around with your warrior more i remember this made the huge difference back in the days between warriors and thats Blizzards retarded decision.

When i face warrior now days if its some multi rank 1 warrior or some challenger with same gear there is barely any different that separates them.

Right but if you notice, enhancement shamans kind of suck, meaning.  Almost any class w/o 10-15% dr passive, is going to be too weak in this game.  I never said that all classes have it, I said most, and if you look at it, it is most of the good classes right now (mostly not always) and classes that don't have it just flop over (rogues, enhance, ele, ww)

Edited by djp771133, 23 January 2013 - 01:40 PM.


#100 djp771133

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Posted 23 January 2013 - 01:40 PM

edit- sorry had trouble posting and this was a double post

Edited by djp771133, 23 January 2013 - 01:42 PM.





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