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#221 Djandawg

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 02:18 AM

I can not comment on mechanics because I don't play one but I am fairly certain that warriors who didn't play ptr will really like the class, especially the ones who  like caster/warrior/healer style.

They still have some abomination abilities they can spec into like disruptive shout, mass reflect etc but hell almost every class have stuff of the sort.

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 03:02 AM

View PostBraindance, on 01 March 2013 - 01:37 AM, said:

Wrong man - casting polymorph takes more fingers than pressing shockwave

Casting polymorph takes more skill than the warrior class in it's entirety.

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 03:08 AM

View PostVesthisBB, on 01 March 2013 - 03:02 AM, said:

Casting polymorph takes more skill than the warrior class in it's entirety.

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View PostZerstiren, on 14 August 2011 - 01:21 AM, said:

If you haven't +repped this guy, you are part of the problem.

View PostRenaissance_Man, on 31 July 2013 - 04:31 AM, said:

If I had a gun with two bullets and I was in a room with Hitler, bin Laden, and you, I would shoot you twice.

View Postsimonfra1234, on 25 August 2011 - 08:46 PM, said:

bro you got +rep'd by rapture...

#224 Duncan

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 11:07 AM

On a real note here is hoodrych's stream with some ptr action of warrior with some top players.  Basically it shows the low utility, clunky dmg, and the only thing that worked was a 1 shot fury bladestorm because the other team let it work, or they would barely manage a win vs randoms in most cases.  This is a top warrior, and honestly it doesn't look like he can do much of anything useful for his team.  RIP 99.9% of warriors in 5.2
enjoy the vod(i will play my warrior next season either way)   http://www.twitch.tv...chx/b/372398270



PS:
For all of you that hated warriors(they are op i know), let me know what you think next season about the other classes vs warriors from this season that will truly interest me.
Here is a reminder of S11 warriors this was 2400+ us classes in 3v3
http://www.arenastat...2400&mt=5&mg=20

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 11:13 AM

can't wait for some delicious warrior tears, just like in s10
:warrior: :warrior: :warrior: :warrior: :warrior: :warrior: :warrior:

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 11:24 AM

View Postflay117, on 01 March 2013 - 11:13 AM, said:

can't wait for some delicious warrior tears, just like in s10
:warrior: :warrior: :warrior: :warrior: :warrior: :warrior: :warrior:

Can't wait to watch a unholy dk sit on your ass and you cry like a little bitch

Edited by Duncan, 01 March 2013 - 11:25 AM.


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Posted 01 March 2013 - 11:28 AM

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 11:38 AM

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 02:02 PM

View PostDuncan, on 01 March 2013 - 11:24 AM, said:

Can't wait to watch a unholy dk sit on your ass and you cry like a little bitch
Can't wait to watch any class sit on your ass and you cry like a little bitch

#230 Djandawg

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 04:08 PM

View PostDuncan, on 01 March 2013 - 11:07 AM, said:

On a real note here is hoodrych's stream with some ptr action of warrior with some top players.  Basically it shows the low utility, clunky dmg, and the only thing that worked was a 1 shot fury bladestorm because the other team let it work, or they would barely manage a win vs randoms in most cases.  This is a top warrior, and honestly it doesn't look like he can do much of anything useful for his team.  RIP 99.9% of warriors in 5.2
enjoy the vod(i will play my warrior next season either way)   http://www.twitch.tv...chx/b/372398270



PS:
For all of you that hated warriors(they are op i know), let me know what you think next season about the other classes vs warriors from this season that will truly interest me.
Here is a reminder of S11 warriors this was 2400+ us classes in 3v3
http://www.arenastat...2400&mt=5&mg=20

-He was playing fury when I was watching him, I think it's pretty standard for fury to be horribly boring, regardless of who plays it.
-Warriors are not horrible, they do still a lot of damage, have access to same set of tools and all my friends who played it told me it's not bad at all. I had a similar impression in 3s.
-I think people are having an issue where you queue into a game and you are disabled by one class %60 of the time, going on the guy that disables you isn't even option because he literally can't die due to mobility and defensives. So to answer your question, there is nothing similar to that on ptr, "can't die, you can't get away from, locks you down indefinitely, has the best dmg in game". Hunters seem to do a lot of damage and monks can shutdown casters with lesser mobility, rogue cloak and dagger seems dumb too.
Also you shouldn't be talking about representation and charts to back up your argument, you would not look good if we used a chart for all arena seasons(and not s11) where warriors were almost always amazing, only class that had the same status was warlocks.

Edited by Djandawg, 01 March 2013 - 09:23 PM.


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Posted 02 March 2013 - 08:04 AM

PTR warrior

Damage: Godlike
Tools: Worse than any other class
Defenses: Average

View PostZerstiren, on 14 August 2011 - 01:21 AM, said:

If you haven't +repped this guy, you are part of the problem.

View PostRenaissance_Man, on 31 July 2013 - 04:31 AM, said:

If I had a gun with two bullets and I was in a room with Hitler, bin Laden, and you, I would shoot you twice.

View Postsimonfra1234, on 25 August 2011 - 08:46 PM, said:

bro you got +rep'd by rapture...

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Posted 04 March 2013 - 03:38 AM

View PostDuncan, on 01 March 2013 - 11:07 AM, said:

On a real note here is hoodrych's stream with some ptr action of warrior with some top players.  Basically it shows the low utility, clunky dmg, and the only thing that worked was a 1 shot fury bladestorm because the other team let it work, or they would barely manage a win vs randoms in most cases.  This is a top warrior, and honestly it doesn't look like he can do much of anything useful for his team.  RIP 99.9% of warriors in 5.2
enjoy the vod(i will play my warrior next season either way)   http://www.twitch.tv...chx/b/372398270



PS:
For all of you that hated warriors(they are op i know), let me know what you think next season about the other classes vs warriors from this season that will truly interest me.
Here is a reminder of S11 warriors this was 2400+ us classes in 3v3
http://www.arenastat...2400&mt=5&mg=20

are you implying that warriors haven't been one of the best classes historically in wow?


because you're wrong. Another problem is not even how good warriors are currently, but how completely brain dead they are. There is no skill in playing warrior, period.

#233 Durial

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Posted 04 March 2013 - 04:05 AM

View PostVesthisBB, on 04 March 2013 - 03:38 AM, said:

are you implying that warriors haven't been one of the best classes historically in wow?


because you're wrong. Another problem is not even how good warriors are currently, but how completely brain dead they are. There is no skill in playing warrior, period.

You really are frustrated

Edited by Durial, 04 March 2013 - 04:06 AM.


#234 Braindance

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Posted 04 March 2013 - 05:40 AM

View PostVesthisBB, on 04 March 2013 - 03:38 AM, said:

are you implying that warriors haven't been one of the best classes historically in wow?


because you're wrong. Another problem is not even how good warriors are currently, but how completely brain dead they are. There is no skill in playing warrior, period.
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View PostZerstiren, on 14 August 2011 - 01:21 AM, said:

If you haven't +repped this guy, you are part of the problem.

View PostRenaissance_Man, on 31 July 2013 - 04:31 AM, said:

If I had a gun with two bullets and I was in a room with Hitler, bin Laden, and you, I would shoot you twice.

View Postsimonfra1234, on 25 August 2011 - 08:46 PM, said:

bro you got +rep'd by rapture...

#235 Covlol

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Posted 04 March 2013 - 08:36 AM

View PostVesthisBB, on 04 March 2013 - 03:38 AM, said:

are you implying that warriors haven't been one of the best classes historically in wow?


because you're wrong. Another problem is not even how good warriors are currently, but how completely brain dead they are. There is no skill in playing warrior, period.

What class does take skill to play again?
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#236 thrudgel

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Posted 05 March 2013 - 06:08 AM

sry to jump in your forum as a druid, but

Won't full s13 set improve rage starvation? I thought every new patch/xpac warrior rage gets normalized.
If you're in s12 gear expect different rage use than maximum s13 gear at 27000conquest starting tomorrow right?...right?

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Posted 05 March 2013 - 06:15 AM

View Postthrudgel, on 05 March 2013 - 06:08 AM, said:

sry to jump in your forum as a druid, but

Won't full s13 set improve rage starvation? I thought every new patch/xpac warrior rage gets normalized.
If you're in s12 gear expect different rage use than maximum s13 gear at 27000conquest starting tomorrow right?...right?
No it won't - you get 12 rage per swing in battle stance (3.6 seconds) and 10 rage per ms (6 seconds). All this in battle stance. You need 10 rage for a mere hamstring.

Rage in battle stance is fine - in def stance you normal regen is 1 rage per 3 seconds and 10 every 6 from ms.

I think it's easy to see why if you ever stay in def stance you do almost no damage.

View PostZerstiren, on 14 August 2011 - 01:21 AM, said:

If you haven't +repped this guy, you are part of the problem.

View PostRenaissance_Man, on 31 July 2013 - 04:31 AM, said:

If I had a gun with two bullets and I was in a room with Hitler, bin Laden, and you, I would shoot you twice.

View Postsimonfra1234, on 25 August 2011 - 08:46 PM, said:

bro you got +rep'd by rapture...

#238 thrudgel

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Posted 05 March 2013 - 06:24 AM

View PostBraindance, on 05 March 2013 - 06:15 AM, said:

No it won't - you get 12 rage per swing in battle stance (3.6 seconds) and 10 rage per ms (6 seconds). All this in battle stance. You need 10 rage for a mere hamstring.

Rage in battle stance is fine - in def stance you normal regen is 1 rage per 3 seconds and 10 every 6 from ms.

I think it's easy to see why if you ever stay in def stance you do almost no damage.
Strange they would nerf that many things. Better now than 5.3 however, look on the bright side. Problem Rdruid has is being buff early season then nerf end season when only end season matters for titles. Just FC rbg for max gear and see what happens in 5.3

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Posted 05 March 2013 - 06:25 AM

View Postthrudgel, on 05 March 2013 - 06:24 AM, said:

Strange they would nerf that many things. Better now than 5.3 however, look on the bright side. Problem Rdruid has is being buff early season then nerf end season when only end season matters for titles. Just FC rbg for max gear and see what happens in 5.3
I ain't gonna wait for 5.3 - warriors do more damage than anything else assuming you leave them alone and you don't have to turtle. Any peel class (lock/mage war will be godlike.

View PostZerstiren, on 14 August 2011 - 01:21 AM, said:

If you haven't +repped this guy, you are part of the problem.

View PostRenaissance_Man, on 31 July 2013 - 04:31 AM, said:

If I had a gun with two bullets and I was in a room with Hitler, bin Laden, and you, I would shoot you twice.

View Postsimonfra1234, on 25 August 2011 - 08:46 PM, said:

bro you got +rep'd by rapture...

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Posted 05 March 2013 - 06:28 AM

View PostBraindance, on 05 March 2013 - 06:25 AM, said:

I ain't gonna wait for 5.3 - warriors do more damage than anything else assuming you leave them alone and you don't have to turtle. Any peel class (lock/mage war will be godlike.
sounds good, i really enjoy playing wmd & wld already but was worried the warrior kings would quit over this




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