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#161 Covlol

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Posted 28 January 2013 - 09:49 PM

View PostLieto, on 28 January 2013 - 11:24 AM, said:

That made me giggle for some reason.
How do you think other classes deal with that? lol


dont forget mobility, you can stick to your target indefinitely nowadays. Sometimes i swap to warrior and i cant catch up cause he is jumping all over the place. It never happened in s1-s8 or so.

As for "warrior should have low cc" — but you still want to be glued to your target, right?

Other classes have constant defensive abilities they can spam to make up for it (Feint) and it is bad design. Honestly in this game atm if ur class doesn't have a passive DMR, than you are at a pretty big disadvantage.

As far as ur other comments, just lol
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Posted 29 January 2013 - 07:40 PM

Came here to say FUCK YOU KFC

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Posted 30 January 2013 - 07:09 PM

The new CS change can be really really sick. Save up 5 overpowers, unleash your shit and have 20 second CS on the target aswell.... And then slam some 150k's!

I already know what comp I'm going to run.... it's something that'll make people whine all over again... :duckers: :duckers:
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Posted 30 January 2013 - 11:33 PM

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- Second Wind - we are reverting the nerf to the heal not working while stunned. We think we have nerfed Arms enough for PvP reasons in 5.2.

not bad now can we plz either have 10-15% dmr in battle and leave d stance as is OR remove the rage cost on overpower and we fine.
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Posted 31 January 2013 - 12:10 AM

View PostSilhin, on 26 January 2013 - 01:39 AM, said:



Or did u think you was just amazing and outplaying everyone when u Leaped away from a bomb and started Ping ponging around the map like a mindless mongloid while taking like 80% less damage than everyone else and healing for 3% of your Hp while Aoe stunning everything in sight ? Your all delusional Go get a job Alrdy

Last class I'd wanna see QQing

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 12:31 AM

View PostPeacesells, on 30 January 2013 - 07:09 PM, said:

The new CS change can be really really sick. Save up 5 overpowers, unleash your shit and have 20 second CS on the target aswell.... And then slam some 150k's!

I already know what comp I'm going to run.... it's something that'll make people whine all over again... :duckers: :duckers:

Do you really think warriors will have the rage for those 5 overpowers? :(

Edited by Thugjitsu, 31 January 2013 - 12:41 AM.

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 12:51 AM

View PostThugjitsu, on 31 January 2013 - 12:31 AM, said:

Do you really think warriors will have the rage for those 5 overpowers? :(

Stay battle stance all the time and you'll be doing twice the damage as you do now
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Posted 31 January 2013 - 01:45 AM

View PostHalez, on 31 January 2013 - 12:10 AM, said:


Last class I'd wanna see QQing

View PostPeacesells, on 31 January 2013 - 12:51 AM, said:

Stay battle stance all the time and you'll be doing twice the damage as you do now


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#169 angelownzz

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 01:55 AM

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 02:03 AM

View PostZerlog, on 31 January 2013 - 01:45 AM, said:

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Talking about double healer, get ready
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Posted 31 January 2013 - 02:27 AM

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 03:16 AM

View PostCovlol, on 30 January 2013 - 11:33 PM, said:

Warrior
- Second Wind - we are reverting the nerf to the heal not working while stunned. We think we have nerfed Arms enough for PvP reasons in 5.2.

If this is true. I am happy about the state of warriors. Def stance + sw nerf was overkill. Im not worried about the rage. We just have to adapt and BS again. (Which i am doing 80% of the time anyways.)

So basicly. SW reverted to 3%. Battle Fatigue no longer affecting it. And it still ticks during stuns. Sound like a buff to me overall. Would prob be worth to pick up the Ms glyph for the loss of DS dmg reduce.

Edited by Pinka, 31 January 2013 - 03:17 AM.

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 06:43 AM

I think this thread should be as good as closed now I think warriors will be okay with the change from today, its a huge step back in the right direction with slam rage change.

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Posted 08 February 2013 - 04:33 AM

Play a rogue if you're gay

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Posted 10 February 2013 - 11:51 AM

i tried warrior on the ptr. rage gen is not that bad in defstance with juggernaut+bull rush and charging on cd. but it just sucks, that charge stun drs itself.

and you can unbind heroic strike

edit: but i get killed by anyone in duells xD

edit2: lol i got a kidney shot for 8 seconds xD

edit3: shadowdance is a certain death, if you dont trinket and blow EVERY cooldown you have

Edited by Wexlike, 10 February 2013 - 12:34 PM.


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Posted 11 February 2013 - 01:16 AM

- Arms - Increased Deep Wounds by +100%.
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Posted 11 February 2013 - 01:57 AM

Warriors on the PTR have great damage - with reforge to haste you have more rage than you can handle in battle stance. Two issues only:

a)Too many globals for hamstring (need passive slow application - add overpower to glyph of hindering strikes)
b)We die super fast on battle stance. Defensive stance change reverted and 10% reduction in battle stance (we won't be able to camp def stance all game since we will do almost no dmg, but we will have strong defensive play if needed)

View Postjustchecking, on 10 November 2014 - 11:58 PM, said:

Going to blizzcon looking for a fight is like going to the official wow arena forums for pvp advice :)

View PostRenaissance_Man, on 31 July 2013 - 04:31 AM, said:

If I had a gun with two bullets and I was in a room with Hitler, bin Laden, and you, I would shoot you twice.

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bro you got +rep'd by rapture...

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Posted 11 February 2013 - 09:28 AM

With bleeds being buffed like that we can dish out some crazy aoe dmg with thunder clap. Equal to other dot classes.my avg dmg according to recount is 10% from deep wounds. With a 100% it will result in 20% total dmg. (Silly maths). Woud this change make avatar even stronger then bloodbath?

@braindance do you think haste will outscale mastery. Tbh with the 50% buff it will clearly be. Since more main attacks > extra swing. Blizz also stated that buffs will be effected. Meaning the 10% haste buff being 15% for us.
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Posted 11 February 2013 - 11:44 AM

The buff to deep wounds is by far the best dps buff they could have given us for defensive stance play. It's also the only one they could have made that didn't increase the damage of warriors swifty one shot macro(or, well, not by much).

But on live at the moment, deep wounds ticks for around 4.7-5k(depending on buffs like battle shout) on a 67% resil target. With the buff, It will obviously hit around 10k or so per tick. With full CDs/Procs (avatar) I could see ticks critting for around 35k.. It will also make TC our best DPR move if it hits 2 or more targets(assuming they do not already have the deep wounds debuff). But that's also just dot damage.. and whether that will matter or not will depend on the comp you play.

As far as reforging haste goes.. I don't really think that's a good idea in all honesty. If colossus smash were to still proc off autos, I could see it being a possible choice. But you lose around 7.07% mastery chance to basically double your haste... But that only drops your weapon speed from 3.36 to 3.17(you go from 6.93% attack speed to 13.37%. Using haste boots as well instead of mastery ones).
But since you don't gain rage from autos in Dstance, nor do you ever really have 100% up time, I think mastery wins out personally.

Though, personally, I think reforging into expertise over mastery(or haste) vs melee/hunter teams is the way to go(if you are talking min/maxing). Would be more rage gen and dps.

EDIT:

As far as bloodbath vs avatar goes.. This doesn't change anything there really. I generally go with bloodbath when I want a little bit more consistent pressure(also, many may not know this, but bloodbath does something semi special...). And then I go with avatar when I think the burst will prove to be more valuable.

And since we will lose glyph of hindering(as arms), people may like bloodbath a bit more since you will be able to ignore hamstring while it's active(up to 18 seconds of snare, yo).

Edited by Deonto, 11 February 2013 - 12:28 PM.


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Posted 11 February 2013 - 01:32 PM

Yeah Bloodbath can crit and dips into bonus crit (from Recklessness and others).

The trade-off is the root removal Vs the AoE/ranged snare. I assume damage between Avatatar and Bloodbath comes out approximately the same in a PvP environment.




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