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#41 Chancesz

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Posted 18 January 2013 - 05:02 AM

this is great cause the rbg carry companies will lose all their business :)

#42 phishy

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Posted 18 January 2013 - 05:15 AM

this is a great change. granted, until they the difference in conq. cap between rbgs and arena, you will have some players fairly outgeared for a portion of the season if they do not grind rbgs. however, that will only be for a few weeks as they reach 27k pts a little later than the rbgers. so much better than now, where you are forever behind if you start late and behind by a lot.

there is still incentive with this change because there is still titles and rating inflation

if i were a dev, the next step would be finding a way to implement weekly/monthly rewards (be it cosmetic or whatever) to act as "mini-seasons" or "tournaments" to keep participation, incentive, and activity high at all times. obviously, the question is not whether or not that would be a good idea, but rather if it is profitable for them

#43 zedzke

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Posted 18 January 2013 - 05:15 AM

good change i think

#44 jopotsi

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Posted 18 January 2013 - 06:07 AM

I guess its time for me to actually start playing again. I don't see why anyone is complaining about this change, it's like the best change ever.

#45 GrieverZ

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Posted 18 January 2013 - 06:17 AM

View PostChancesz, on 18 January 2013 - 05:02 AM, said:

this is great cause the rbg carry companies will lose all their business :)

Meh, they will find something else, some people can be very creative to make money without doing anything productive for society.

Edited by GrieverZ, 18 January 2013 - 06:17 AM.


#46 Braindance

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Posted 18 January 2013 - 06:24 AM

View PostChancesz, on 18 January 2013 - 05:02 AM, said:

this is great cause the rbg carry companies will lose all their business :)
Muahahahah +rep

View PostZerstiren, on 14 August 2011 - 01:21 AM, said:

If you haven't +repped this guy, you are part of the problem.

View PostRenaissance_Man, on 31 July 2013 - 04:31 AM, said:

If I had a gun with two bullets and I was in a room with Hitler, bin Laden, and you, I would shoot you twice.

View Postsimonfra1234, on 25 August 2011 - 08:46 PM, said:

bro you got +rep'd by rapture...

#47 Libyanator

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Posted 18 January 2013 - 06:31 AM

They're starting to actually knuckle down way more than before about pvp, we'll see though.
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#48 Hyuru

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Posted 18 January 2013 - 07:06 AM

good change
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#49 Jacquelol

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Posted 18 January 2013 - 07:14 AM

View PostHyuru, on 18 January 2013 - 07:06 AM, said:

good change

indeed
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#50 WildeHilde

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Posted 18 January 2013 - 07:32 AM

If the rating inflation is strong enough it could lead to higher arena than RBG caps or did I miss something?

#51 Zong

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Posted 18 January 2013 - 07:48 AM

View PostWildeHilde, on 18 January 2013 - 07:32 AM, said:

If the rating inflation is strong enough it could lead to higher arena than RBG caps or did I miss something?

Higher caps because rating is higher only, that's a bit of a cop-out in my book. The CP you would earn would still be under an RBG score of the same rating.

Arena takes just as much effort as RBGs, it takes a lot of time-invested to be good, why should arena players time be worth less?

Edited by Zong, 18 January 2013 - 07:49 AM.

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#52 WildeHilde

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Posted 18 January 2013 - 08:03 AM

Yes, not saying I would not like the same cap for the same rating. Was more practical as question.

#53 zzyzzyzz

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Posted 18 January 2013 - 08:15 AM

ah yes arena points were the problem and not horrible gameplay and easy gameplay

#54 Draedx

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Posted 18 January 2013 - 08:31 AM

View PostZong, on 18 January 2013 - 07:48 AM, said:

Higher caps because rating is higher only, that's a bit of a cop-out in my book. The CP you would earn would still be under an RBG score of the same rating.

Arena takes just as much effort as RBGs, it takes a lot of time-invested to be good, why should arena players time be worth less?

Make a video of yourself setting up an arena team.  Win 10 games.
Then make a video of yourself setting up an RBG team. Win 10 games.
Which is easier to set up?  Which took more time to complete?  Why do you think effort matters?

Edited by Draedx, 18 January 2013 - 08:33 AM.


#55 Zong

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Posted 18 January 2013 - 08:47 AM

View PostDraedx, on 18 January 2013 - 08:31 AM, said:

Make a video of yourself setting up an arena team.  Win 10 games.
Then make a video of yourself setting up an RBG team. Win 10 games.
Which is easier to set up?  Which took more time to complete?  Why do you think effort matters?

Except that next patch you get a ton of points even if you lose in RBGs. Effort is just another word I used for time-spent. Effort doesn't matter, how much you're rewarded vs how much time you spend playing the game, do matter.

The example you used is way too basic, you're not accounting for the fact that it's much easier to farm up rating in RBGs, win or lose.
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#56 Enaina

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Posted 18 January 2013 - 09:09 AM

Awesome change that rewards playing from the start(due to cap), allows catch up with a 1k conquest points per week and removes the benefit of rushing glad by abusing non-fixed classes.

Edited by Enaina, 18 January 2013 - 09:09 AM.


#57 phishy

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Posted 18 January 2013 - 09:14 AM

View Postzzyzzyzz, on 18 January 2013 - 08:15 AM, said:

ah yes arena points were the problem and not horrible gameplay and easy gameplay

it's certainly part of the problem

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Posted 18 January 2013 - 09:22 AM

View PostZong, on 18 January 2013 - 08:47 AM, said:

Except that next patch you get a ton of points even if you lose in RBGs. Effort is just another word I used for time-spent. Effort doesn't matter, how much you're rewarded vs how much time you spend playing the game, do matter.

The example you used is way too basic, you're not accounting for the fact that it's much easier to farm up rating in RBGs, win or lose.

no matter what flaws RBG might have, if you think setting up a full grp of good people up for RBG is as easy as playing 10 games of 2s, you are delusional.

Also was I the only one who read that the next arena season wont come with 5.3 and that therefore the inflation is already going to be happening?

#59 Cleveland

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Posted 18 January 2013 - 09:28 AM

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#60 WildeHilde

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Posted 18 January 2013 - 09:31 AM

We currently have 5.1, the inflation comes with 5.2 as well as the next season. With 5.2 no new season, but with 5.4 and the next raid tier it probably will.




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