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#1 Bamflol

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Posted 18 January 2013 - 02:23 AM

edit:
http://www.arenajunk...-52-and-beyond/
go there instead, didn't see someone had made the post about it as well. Was reading comments and stuff when i was about to make the post so i didnt see he made the thread prior, sorry.

Edited by Bamflol, 18 January 2013 - 02:42 AM.


#2 Rhetorical1

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Posted 18 January 2013 - 02:24 AM

cya wow

#3 Dakkrothy

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Posted 18 January 2013 - 02:27 AM

dno why u bring it up on AJ, I honestly dont think anyone who has AJ access actually cares one single bit if the gear is "elite" or not.

Besides, its just a good thing that everyone has access to the best gear in pvp, I mean we wouldnt want the game to be more balanced now do we?

Edited by Dakkrothy, 18 January 2013 - 02:28 AM.


#4 Keiret

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Posted 18 January 2013 - 02:28 AM

Can't tell if trolling or just stupid(they're the same I guess). No one cares about 2.2k.

#5 Bamflol

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Posted 18 January 2013 - 02:29 AM

It's not the elite part that i care about. It's the fact that no one will be wanting to que, and i'm curious to how this fixes blizzard's whole 'lets give pvpers something to buy'. I could give two shits less about the t2, again it's the fact that the ques are going to suck, no one will want to push rating, all the casuals won't want to que to improve and possibly get rating.


edit@dakks edit.

Im fine with gear being the same, I enjoyed gw2's idea of giving everyone all the same gear, pvp always should revolve around skill rather than gear, its just the ques that i'm worried about.

Edited by Bamflol, 18 January 2013 - 02:31 AM.


#6 Ciarzx

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Posted 18 January 2013 - 02:30 AM

The inflation should make people queue, no?
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#7 Icekingx

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Posted 18 January 2013 - 02:31 AM

Does this mean no more different color gear? What if I don't like being in my red gear and I wanted blue T_T.

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#8 Snackumz

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Posted 18 January 2013 - 02:31 AM

it might lead to more people playing actually since they can have on par gear with other people.

#9 Bamflol

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Posted 18 January 2013 - 02:36 AM

View PostSnackumz, on 18 January 2013 - 02:31 AM, said:

it might lead to more people playing actually since they can have on par gear with other people.
i can see this just i'm not sure if people will just want to que to cap every week until they get their 27000 pts then fuck around and do whatever. again i'm just skeptical about what everyone else's opinion is on this and how it will affect the ladders.

#10 Burtthemage

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Posted 18 January 2013 - 02:42 AM

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Posted 18 January 2013 - 02:48 AM

View PostBamflol, on 18 January 2013 - 02:36 AM, said:


i can see this just i'm not sure if people will just want to que to cap every week until they get their 27000 pts then fuck around and do whatever. again i'm just skeptical about what everyone else's opinion is on this and how it will affect the ladders.

The people who do this will do this regardless of whether they have 2200 or not. I'm assuming people who pvp are playing because they enjoy it. The people who play more than their cap each week won't just stop because of these changes. What is unenjoyable is not being able to play because you are so far behind in gear you can't possibly compete. This is the problem many people have at the moment. If anything these changes will make the ladder more active, with people who actually enjoy pvp, having the gear to compete, as well as allowing you to play on alts more competitively.

Edited by maarko, 18 January 2013 - 02:49 AM.

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#12 Dizp

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Posted 18 January 2013 - 02:49 AM

They should just have lowered it to 2k imo. At least then the ppl we're currently fighting at 1900-2100 has a goal to get their elite gear, now that they dont have a goal they're prolly just gonna cap fast games in 2s every week. And let's be honest, it is those 1900-2100 teams that keeps the ladders somewhat active. It is VERY rarely that you face teams above 2.4k, at least in eu where ppl are spread across multiple bgs.

#13 Porkz

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Posted 18 January 2013 - 02:52 AM

Conclusions
Overall, we expect that these changes will create a more active and competitive PvP environment, narrow the gear gap between the highest rated players and those still working their way up the ladder, and open the door for more experimentation in terms of class or spec.
We look forward to hearing your opinions and feedback on these upcoming changes!

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#14 Snuggli

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Posted 18 January 2013 - 02:53 AM

I don't get the whole idea that being able to buy the 'middle-set' gear with honor fixes the problem of people wanting gear for 2 specs at all.

Once you hit 27000 CQ you'll have 2 sets of gear exactly the same iLevel, but you'll only be able to start getting "Elite Tyrannical" gear for one of those specs, so you'll still only be able to be properly competitive in one of your specs.

It's a band-aid for the underlying problem.


Everything seems an improvement though, apart from:

Official Blizzard Quote:

Team Rating will gradually increase during the season for teams and players that continue to compete in PvP.

which I still don't understand. Does it reward people spam-queueing? Does it penalize people who team jump to play with friends?


edit: i fucking love the 1000*weeks missed changed to conquest change.

Edited by Snuggli, 18 January 2013 - 02:56 AM.

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Go listen to some Bieber shit and leave me alone fucko.

#15 Regent

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Posted 18 January 2013 - 03:06 AM

View PostSnuggli, on 18 January 2013 - 02:53 AM, said:

edit: i fucking love the 1000*weeks missed changed to conquest change.

Until you realize how many games you have to play in the 1300 bracket.

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Posted 18 January 2013 - 03:15 AM

I was really looking forward to something that addresses the ridiculous caps people get from RBGs. I was let down.

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Posted 18 January 2013 - 03:16 AM

I think many of you are assuming Elite Tyrannical gear means it has higher item level? I don't think that's the case. Elite to me sounds like a different color. All of the changes they made are good for the game. I really do not understand the concerns in this thread. Also, once you  earn 27000 Conquest Points you can buy full off-spec gear with honor and play your other roles.

#18 Animalcrackr

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Posted 18 January 2013 - 03:19 AM

What an awful change. I expect to be able to do Alterac Valley or LFR to get my BiS heroic trinkets when they are broken again (yes it will happen, you will once again have to pve to have the advantage in pvp.)
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#19 venruki

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Posted 18 January 2013 - 03:22 AM

best change ever

#20 majorblood

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Posted 18 January 2013 - 03:25 AM

View PostTalbadar, on 18 January 2013 - 03:16 AM, said:

I think many of you are assuming Elite Tyrannical gear means it has higher item level? I don't think that's the case. Elite to me sounds like a different color. All of the changes they made are good for the game. I really do not understand the concerns in this thread. Also, once you  earn 27000 Conquest Points you can buy full off-spec gear with honor and play your other roles.

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In terms of relative power, we’re tuning the item levels, PvP Power, and Resilience on the new set of PvP items so that the difference between Malevolent and Elite Tyrannical Gladiator’s gear is similar to the relationship between this season’s Dreadful and Malevolent Gladiator’s gear.


Why would they even mention Elite Tyrannical if it had no stat difference? Why not just Tyrannical? It seems as though elite is more than aesthetic season 13.

Edited by majorblood, 18 January 2013 - 03:26 AM.





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