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#21 Braindance

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Posted 18 January 2013 - 03:16 AM

Anyone disagreeing with those changes should be banned from this site.

View PostZerstiren, on 14 August 2011 - 01:21 AM, said:

If you haven't +repped this guy, you are part of the problem.

View PostRenaissance_Man, on 31 July 2013 - 04:31 AM, said:

If I had a gun with two bullets and I was in a room with Hitler, bin Laden, and you, I would shoot you twice.

View Postsimonfra1234, on 25 August 2011 - 08:46 PM, said:

bro you got +rep'd by rapture...

#22 GrieverZ

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Posted 18 January 2013 - 03:21 AM

My only issue is that i don't see the point in having "elite gear" now, having a small cosmetical perk for being high rated wasn't a big deal. I agree with T2 weapons being accessible tough.

The rest is good, but like someone else said, if you're not going for glad, there's literally 0 incentive for the average joe to push rating now. Oh well.

#23 Braindance

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Posted 18 January 2013 - 03:27 AM

View PostGrieverZ, on 18 January 2013 - 03:21 AM, said:

My only issue is that i don't see the point in having "elite gear" now, having a small cosmetical perk for being high rated wasn't a big deal. I agree with T2 weapons being accessible tough.

The rest is good, but like someone else said, if you're not going for glad, there's literally 0 incentive for the average joe to push rating now. Oh well.
The incentive is to get better and have fun playing the game my man

View PostZerstiren, on 14 August 2011 - 01:21 AM, said:

If you haven't +repped this guy, you are part of the problem.

View PostRenaissance_Man, on 31 July 2013 - 04:31 AM, said:

If I had a gun with two bullets and I was in a room with Hitler, bin Laden, and you, I would shoot you twice.

View Postsimonfra1234, on 25 August 2011 - 08:46 PM, said:

bro you got +rep'd by rapture...

#24 Bailamosx

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Posted 18 January 2013 - 03:27 AM

"When everybody owns something, nobody owns it, and nobody has a direct interest in maintaining or improving its condition." - Milton Friedman

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#25 Rhordizledog

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Posted 18 January 2013 - 03:28 AM

Love the new changes, finally blizz gives people a chance to level an alt class mid season and still be able to obtain full gear.
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#26 majorblood

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Posted 18 January 2013 - 03:31 AM

View PostBailamosx, on 18 January 2013 - 03:27 AM, said:

"When everybody owns something, nobody owns it, and nobody has a direct interest in maintaining or improving its condition." - Milton Friedman
this quote is very limited and simply not true. you don't need to own something to have a direct interest in maintaining or improving its condition. nobody 'owns' mathematics but it's extremely essential to human progression and people are greatly interested in improving our understanding of it. the same goes for sciences, etc.

Edited by majorblood, 18 January 2013 - 03:31 AM.


#27 GrieverZ

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Posted 18 January 2013 - 03:33 AM

View PostBraindance, on 18 January 2013 - 03:27 AM, said:

The incentive is to get better and have fun playing the game my man

Its what i plan to do and always did, but most people actually needs a carrot to put efforts into something. Now that carrot is gone for 99.5% of the players.

Why even have Gladiator titles then, or rank one, or any kind of rewards, just getting better and having fun playing the game should be enough no?

#28 Celaurthor

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Posted 18 January 2013 - 03:35 AM

Now they just need to lower rbg caps to the equivalent of arena caps. Or at least close the gap a bit.

#29 Rhetorical1

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Posted 18 January 2013 - 03:47 AM

ok so now theres no reason not to bot bgs forever

#30 thrudgel

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Posted 18 January 2013 - 03:49 AM

It's so annoying finding team mates to push glad when half the wow community still has half blues.

Tired of helping gear up people just to have a chance to beat the top teams. Was going to quit but maybe this will fix 3v3 activity instead of just push glad /disband team culture

#31 kotow

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Posted 18 January 2013 - 03:53 AM

okay*ish* changes except the 2.2 part :( it will kinda kill the incentive on playing past the 27k conquest/achieving higher ratings, since theres no point at all lol (plus rating decay? i dont really know what to think about it)
idk, keep the same cosmetic 2.2k elite gear, add some tabards and/or some challenge-like xmog set for, lets say, 2.4k and voyla, everyones happy again.

#32 Celaurthor

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Posted 18 January 2013 - 03:59 AM

This SHOULD also reduce the amount of sells overall on the ladder achieving titles.

#33 GrieverZ

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Posted 18 January 2013 - 04:08 AM

View PostCelaurthor, on 18 January 2013 - 03:59 AM, said:

This SHOULD also reduce the amount of sells overall on the ladder achieving titles.

Don't see how it changes anything, people will still buy glad, probably even more now thats its the only cosmetic reward left in  PvP.

#34 Covlol

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Posted 18 January 2013 - 04:09 AM

Awesome changes!
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Posted 18 January 2013 - 04:13 AM

Good change imo, I do miss the wotlk system though ;[

Edited by Clichex, 18 January 2013 - 04:30 AM.


#36 Pritchard

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Posted 18 January 2013 - 04:20 AM

how can people say there is nothing to aim for?  titles have always been more motivation than anything else.  The majority of the population plays because not only they want to get better, have fun, but try to get titles.  I know tons of people who were 2200 for a long time andnever bought any of the cosmetic gear, because they weren't worried about it.  Titles have always been the biggest thing to aim for ever since vanilla with the BG titles.  This will not kill the ladders, this will boost participation just as they said, and is an amazing change.

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Posted 18 January 2013 - 04:21 AM

Great changes ! Really like how everyone will be on a pretty much even field.



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#38 Celaurthor

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Posted 18 January 2013 - 04:24 AM

View PostGrieverZ, on 18 January 2013 - 04:08 AM, said:

Don't see how it changes anything, people will still buy glad, probably even more now thats its the only cosmetic reward left in  PvP.
Less time for them to complete as many sells and secure their own chars. Inflation will blow past their earlier sells and they most likely won't have enough time to catch all of them up.

#39 Djandawg

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Posted 18 January 2013 - 04:27 AM

It's good that people get a chance to catch up with alts etc now, the honor/conquest change is really good.
I'd like to understand people celebrating the rating requirement change etc though. It will kill the 2100-2300 bracket which most of us play with our alts. There is now no incentive for people to get better either. If you think people are gonna try to get better to reach 27k cap sooner for elites, that's delusional. Also competition to what titles? Do you think people will farm Rival?
27k is a horrible number because every week people lose 700 points.by not doing rbgs. This gap becomes bigger and bigger when the cap to elite weapons is increased.
Why are people forced to play rbgs, it's painful. Why is it more rewarding? I think any 2.2k arena player can get 2.2k in rbgs if they queued enough but most people I know who have 2.4k+ rbg rating won't break 2.2k in 3s if their life depended on it.
Changes I would like to see are more along the lines:
-RBGs =  3s  conquest points.
-RBGs not rewarding T2 weapon.
-T2 weapons have 2.2k requirement from 3s.

Once this is done, maybe they can look into t2 upgrade unfariness between melee and casters. A t2 upgrade for an affli lock or say moonkin is a joke comparing to a t2 upgrade for a rogue/warrior etc.

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#40 Leeston

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Posted 18 January 2013 - 04:35 AM

Great Changes, but they need to add incentives such as transmog gear/pets/mounts for rating.  Right now everyone will grind 27000 points and stop.




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