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#1 wodeta

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Posted 15 January 2013 - 01:04 PM

Works through LOS seriously?????????

We dont need a mechanic like that in the game, cmon blizzard!

Rogues Cata Allover again =(





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Posted 15 January 2013 - 01:12 PM

Rogue : want to swap druid??
Mage: Yeah but hes Los
Rogue : Np i soloed him
Mage: alright gg next arena
Rogue: yeah
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#3 WildeHilde

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Posted 15 January 2013 - 01:44 PM

It works not only without LoS, but also while rooted. The skill is pretty interesting, but depends on the rogue being able to restealth a lot to be effective. Means priest shields will be very good for rogues and Fearie Fire will remain the single most annoying spell in the game.

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Posted 15 January 2013 - 01:50 PM

You think this will be better than Shadow Step?

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Posted 15 January 2013 - 02:07 PM

Of course it will be, this will allow us to pull off a sap with warlocks gay ass rain of fire going off all game long!

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Posted 15 January 2013 - 02:13 PM

Yes I think it's better, but just to clarify, it does not work with Sap. you can sap and then open even through LoS. Will cost some cool stuff, like focus-ShS-Kick or catching traps with ShS.

But you can pull of so many insane things, like kiting someone down on Blade's Edge and then open from below on the hiding healer.

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Posted 15 January 2013 - 03:13 PM

Its a cool idea, if it required LoS then it'd be balanced, considering the disadvantages of loosing shadowstep.

Personally, i'm never dropping shadowstep.
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Posted 15 January 2013 - 03:17 PM

Intradesting indeed...
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Posted 16 January 2013 - 06:12 PM

View PostWildeHilde, on 15 January 2013 - 02:13 PM, said:

Yes I think it's better, but just to clarify, it does not work with Sap. you can sap and then open even through LoS. Will cost some cool stuff, like focus-ShS-Kick or catching traps with ShS.

But you can pull of so many insane things, like kiting someone down on Blade's Edge and then open from below on the hiding healer.

With subterfuge + energy change you can easily CC an entire 3s team every opener, without having to pop a single cd, or needing LOS. It is pretty ridiculous.

Edited by maarko, 16 January 2013 - 06:14 PM.

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#10 Knox556

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Posted 16 January 2013 - 06:39 PM

Can you say shadow dance - killing spree?

This is the single most retarded ability I have ever seen blizz come up with.

Honestly just nerf warriors, and prep baseline and they'll be 100% fine, don't add this garbage to the game...

#11 Kifasa

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Posted 16 January 2013 - 07:20 PM

View PostKnox556, on 16 January 2013 - 06:39 PM, said:

Can you say shadow dance - killing spree?
Well... Hmmm... What do You mean?

Edited by Kifasa, 16 January 2013 - 07:21 PM.

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#12 Coldizzle

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Posted 16 January 2013 - 07:41 PM

ShS is better.

#13 Knox556

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Posted 16 January 2013 - 08:46 PM

View PostKifasa, on 16 January 2013 - 07:20 PM, said:

Well... Hmmm... What do You mean?

The teleporting around just reminded me of KS, idk - point still stands though, this thing going through LoS is over the top.

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Posted 16 January 2013 - 09:15 PM

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Posted 17 January 2013 - 09:29 AM

step #1, fuck cloak and dagger

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Posted 17 January 2013 - 02:15 PM

One of the best part of cloak and dagger is that You don't need to worry that the moment You shadostep magma totem tick, flair etc. will get You out of stealth before You open. 100% Clean opener!
Dear Blizzard,
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#17 clusky

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Posted 17 January 2013 - 04:35 PM

View PostKifasa, on 17 January 2013 - 02:15 PM, said:

One of the best part of cloak and dagger is that You don't need to worry that the moment You shadostep magma totem tick, flair etc. will get You out of stealth before You open. 100% Clean opener!

Subterfuge will achieve the same thing as well, although both together could be pretty interesting.

openers like, sap one target > premed SnD > focus cheap shot second target > redirect > cheap shot third target.

would cost 115 energy, SnD is up and running and also gives you 4 combo points on your target after cheap shot.

is subterfuge still bugging out dance bars on ptr or did they fix it?

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Posted 17 January 2013 - 04:37 PM

View Postclusky, on 17 January 2013 - 04:35 PM, said:

Subterfuge will achieve the same thing as well, although both together could be pretty interesting.
Subterfuge will not defend You from a flair.
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Posted 17 January 2013 - 05:03 PM

I think Cloak and Dagger will be a lot stronger with Subterfuge. You can abuse it for mobility, teleport to totems and pets. Subterfuge essentially allows you to teleport around the map with Cloak and Dagger. Maybe gimmicky, but I think it's opening up a lot of new possibilities, even more than step/prep/step did.

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Posted 17 January 2013 - 05:09 PM

the rogues who have rocked para/fuge all this season will be good players in 5.2

cant say the same for the generics xD




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