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#21 Tsx

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Posted 15 January 2013 - 03:49 PM

View PostCtuhlu, on 15 January 2013 - 10:26 AM, said:

Yeah, I don't understand it. They've nerfed druid/mage into the ground while simultaneously buffing Druid/Warlock (which has always been more annoying) to the stratosphere.
how is it a buff?shares dr with everything.

#22 Mirionx

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Posted 15 January 2013 - 03:52 PM

View PostCtuhlu, on 15 January 2013 - 10:26 AM, said:

while simultaneously buffing Druid/Warlock (which has always been more annoying) to the stratosphere.

Lock shaman was way more annoying then druid lock dw.

#23 Nightmonkey

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Posted 15 January 2013 - 05:06 PM

Still waiting to see if there are any real changes to shaman and priests.  I wonder how they will approach both classes having one spec that is very strong, and two specs that are miserable.

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Posted 15 January 2013 - 05:08 PM

keep cyclone 6 sec and remove the fucking DR plz
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#25 Rylexcamel

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Posted 15 January 2013 - 05:10 PM

View PostNightmonkey, on 15 January 2013 - 05:06 PM, said:

Still waiting to see if there are any real changes to shaman and priests.  I wonder how they will approach both classes having one spec that is very strong, and two specs that are miserable.
both ele and disc got new buffs..

Edited by Rylexcamel, 15 January 2013 - 05:10 PM.


#26 Bigmoran

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Posted 15 January 2013 - 05:12 PM

8 fucking seconds

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View Postjaimex, on 06 September 2014 - 09:36 AM, said:

temporal shield combined with ironbark ward is more healing than a shaman ns from 10% hp


#27 affix

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Posted 15 January 2013 - 05:20 PM

View PostYarmyxx, on 15 January 2013 - 03:49 PM, said:

how is it a buff?shares dr with everything.
it's on incapacitate DR, how is that 'everything'?

I love how mage CC DRs with every healer's CC except for the healer that is 0% viable

Edited by affix, 15 January 2013 - 05:21 PM.


#28 Dizzeeyo

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Posted 15 January 2013 - 05:29 PM

View PostNightmonkey, on 15 January 2013 - 05:06 PM, said:

Still waiting to see if there are any real changes to shaman and priests.  I wonder how they will approach both classes having one spec that is very strong, and two specs that are miserable.

Nice to see you are not just a blind retard in the Mage forums but everywhere else as well, ele shamans are gona be one of the best casters next patch outside of shadow priests

On topic, like others have already said, remove the dr and leave at 6 seconds, so mages don't get fucked out of playing with the one active cc healer that's actually fun to play with, not counting disc since its so horrible

Edited by Dizzeeyo, 15 January 2013 - 05:33 PM.

View PostPouncedd, on 12 June 2014 - 01:51 AM, said:

Feel free to call me an idiot because I'm a hunter or some stupid ass remark but I've actually written all this down on paper and have looked at the numbers comparatively for almost every class

View PostJontex, on 23 June 2014 - 04:48 PM, said:

I actually made an appearance at DH2014 and I met up with people from twitch who were involved with the dota 2 / cs tournies that where there, I talked about the game from my perspective as a professional player and we actually shared a lot of opinions. All I'm saying is a lot of people will be VERY surprised about the future of this game in the esport world :)

#29 thrudgel

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Posted 15 January 2013 - 05:48 PM

remember when we were supposed to decide to cast healing touch, nourish vs regrowth which wastes more mana but heals more?

they never stick to their design idea's anyway... stop qq and just play

#30 Vanguards

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Posted 15 January 2013 - 05:49 PM

I would also rather see it not DR and keep it at 6 seconds. Feels like the DR ruins synergy with druid and certain classes while at the same time a 8second spammable CC that isn't dispellable seems 100% ridiculous.

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#31 Nightmonkey

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Posted 15 January 2013 - 05:57 PM

View PostDizzeeyo, on 15 January 2013 - 05:29 PM, said:

Nice to see you are not just a blind retard in the Mage forums but everywhere else as well, ele shamans are gona be one of the best casters next patch outside of shadow priests

On topic, like others have already said, remove the dr and leave at 6 seconds, so mages don't get fucked out of playing with the one active cc healer that's actually fun to play with, not counting disc since its so horrible

General forums = Mage forums?  Our magus overlords are taking over even faster than I thought, this is a problem.

So one spec got changed and I didn't see the notes for it, but what about Disc, Enhance, Resto, and Shadow changes?  Nothing I've seen so far really sticks out as something that will make a huge difference for those classes.  Enhance got some nice buffs but nothing that will help solve the problem of getting trained to death.  Disc has gotten some decent changes but nothing that, in my opinion, makes them competitive with resto shaman.

#32 affix

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Posted 15 January 2013 - 07:00 PM

I'm having a seriously hard time understanding the cyclone DR change, if anything it should DR with fear to nerf SPriest/Druid synergy.  Mage already get screwed playing with Shaman with hex DR, why cyclone too?

What the fuck are Mages supposed to play next patch?

#33 Snuggli

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Posted 15 January 2013 - 07:22 PM

View Postaffix, on 15 January 2013 - 07:00 PM, said:

I'm having a seriously hard time understanding the cyclone DR change, if anything it should DR with fear to nerf SPriest/Druid synergy.  Mage already get screwed playing with Shaman with hex DR, why cyclone too?

What the fuck are Mages supposed to play next patch?

pala owait incap dr and stun dr
shaman owait hex/poly dr
druid owait cyclone/poly dr
monk owait incap dr and stun dr

looks like you're playing with a disc m8.

View PostBraindance, on 11 October 2013 - 12:44 PM, said:

Go listen to some Bieber shit and leave me alone fucko.

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Posted 15 January 2013 - 07:32 PM

The way Cyclone needs to be changed is DRs with only itself (as it does now) Same duration as well and for feral druids when used through predatory swiftness puts the ability on a 15-30 second CD.

This way Ferals aren't restricted to only using cyclone once every 30 and would have to cast it if they wanted to constantly peel
And this also does not affect either boomkin or resto.

But lets be serious blizzard balances around nerfing things that aren't the issue and dancing around the problem, Like Symbiosis Iceblock >.>

Edited by pyrellael_3428244, 15 January 2013 - 07:35 PM.


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Posted 15 January 2013 - 08:05 PM

if the cyclone DR changes go through druids will only be viable with warlocks and spriest.

cyclone is balanced as it is for resto and boomkins, shorter duration than polly/fear but undispellable.  How is an 8 second undispellable, spammable cc balanced?

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Posted 15 January 2013 - 09:08 PM

rpd next patch will be fun
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Posted 15 January 2013 - 09:11 PM

first rdruid nerf then holy paladin nerf before even touching rsham


next season could honestly be pretty fun at this point if they could just address the fact that rshams, especially in light of clone dr and blinding light change, are now the best healer for every comp.

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Posted 15 January 2013 - 09:31 PM

I don't get it, 8 second cc that can't be dispelled? Is this for real ? Just make cyclone fucking dispellable and let it be a mirror of repentance

On another note, life swap needs to be disc only, hunter pets should not be able to cc, repentance needs to be 6s, clone needs to be 6s and dispellable, and totemic restoration needs to be removed. If those changes go through it will be a very close to perfect patch

Edited by Zilea, 15 January 2013 - 09:38 PM.


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Posted 15 January 2013 - 09:33 PM

View PostDizzeeyo, on 15 January 2013 - 05:29 PM, said:

Nice to see you are not just a blind retard in the Mage forums but everywhere else as well, ele shamans are gona be one of the best casters next patch outside of shadow priests

ele is getting a survivability buff and sure thats huge and will make it a lot better. but the purge nerf will hurt a lot more than ppl realise. purge is currently 50% of my pressure as ele. which is literally reduced by 50% with the nerf to purge glyph. so while i do think ele will be less frustrating to play, i cannot see how its supposed to turn into one of the best casters. If say, they buff lightning bolt dmg so you can put out some sustained pressure again i think it will be quite good. not OP but definently viable. without a sustained buff i doubt you will see more ele's around

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Posted 15 January 2013 - 09:55 PM

View PostZilea, on 15 January 2013 - 09:31 PM, said:

I don't get it, 8 second cc that can't be dispelled? Is this for real ? Just make cyclone fucking dispellable and let it be a mirror of repentance

On another note, life swap needs to be disc only, hunter pets should not be able to cc, repentance needs to be 6s, clone needs to be 6s and dispellable, and totemic restoration needs to be removed. If those changes go through it will be a very close to perfect patch
What comp do you think Mages will be running next patch with no Druid synergy and no imp CS?




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