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[Yarmyxx]

Ctuhlu, on 15 January 2013 - 10:26 AM, said:

Yeah, I don't understand it. They've nerfed druid/mage into the ground while simultaneously buffing Druid/Warlock (which has always been more annoying) to the stratosphere.

how is it a buff?shares dr with everything.

[Mirionx]

Ctuhlu, on 15 January 2013 - 10:26 AM, said:

while simultaneously buffing Druid/Warlock (which has always been more annoying) to the stratosphere.

Lock shaman was way more annoying then druid lock dw.

[Nightmonkey]

Still waiting to see if there are any real changes to shaman and priests.  I wonder how they will approach both classes having one spec that is very strong, and two specs that are miserable.

[Fleinflex]

keep cyclone 6 sec and remove the fucking DR plz

[Rylexcamel]

Nightmonkey, on 15 January 2013 - 05:06 PM, said:

Still waiting to see if there are any real changes to shaman and priests.  I wonder how they will approach both classes having one spec that is very strong, and two specs that are miserable.

both ele and disc got new buffs..

Edited by Rylexcamel, 15 January 2013 - 05:10 PM.

[Bigmoran]

8 fucking seconds

[affix]

Yarmyxx, on 15 January 2013 - 03:49 PM, said:

how is it a buff?shares dr with everything.

it's on incapacitate DR, how is that 'everything'?

I love how mage CC DRs with every healer's CC except for the healer that is 0% viable

Edited by affix, 15 January 2013 - 05:21 PM.

[Dizzeeyo]

Nightmonkey, on 15 January 2013 - 05:06 PM, said:

Still waiting to see if there are any real changes to shaman and priests.  I wonder how they will approach both classes having one spec that is very strong, and two specs that are miserable.

Nice to see you are not just a blind retard in the Mage forums but everywhere else as well, ele shamans are gona be one of the best casters next patch outside of shadow priests

On topic, like others have already said, remove the dr and leave at 6 seconds, so mages don't get fucked out of playing with the one active cc healer that's actually fun to play with, not counting disc since its so horrible

Edited by Dizzeeyo, 15 January 2013 - 05:33 PM.

[thrudgel]

remember when we were supposed to decide to cast healing touch, nourish vs regrowth which wastes more mana but heals more?

they never stick to their design idea's anyway... stop qq and just play

[Vanguards]

I would also rather see it not DR and keep it at 6 seconds. Feels like the DR ruins synergy with druid and certain classes while at the same time a 8second spammable CC that isn't dispellable seems 100% ridiculous.

Also, is the priest change actually a buff? (Disc Priests)

[Nightmonkey]

Dizzeeyo, on 15 January 2013 - 05:29 PM, said:

Nice to see you are not just a blind retard in the Mage forums but everywhere else as well, ele shamans are gona be one of the best casters next patch outside of shadow priests

On topic, like others have already said, remove the dr and leave at 6 seconds, so mages don't get fucked out of playing with the one active cc healer that's actually fun to play with, not counting disc since its so horrible

General forums = Mage forums?  Our magus overlords are taking over even faster than I thought, this is a problem.

So one spec got changed and I didn't see the notes for it, but what about Disc, Enhance, Resto, and Shadow changes?  Nothing I've seen so far really sticks out as something that will make a huge difference for those classes.  Enhance got some nice buffs but nothing that will help solve the problem of getting trained to death.  Disc has gotten some decent changes but nothing that, in my opinion, makes them competitive with resto shaman.

[affix]

I'm having a seriously hard time understanding the cyclone DR change, if anything it should DR with fear to nerf SPriest/Druid synergy.  Mage already get screwed playing with Shaman with hex DR, why cyclone too?

What the fuck are Mages supposed to play next patch?

[Snuggli]

affix, on 15 January 2013 - 07:00 PM, said:

I'm having a seriously hard time understanding the cyclone DR change, if anything it should DR with fear to nerf SPriest/Druid synergy.  Mage already get screwed playing with Shaman with hex DR, why cyclone too?

What the fuck are Mages supposed to play next patch?

pala owait incap dr and stun dr
shaman owait hex/poly dr
druid owait cyclone/poly dr
monk owait incap dr and stun dr

looks like you're playing with a disc m8.

[pyrellael_3428244]

The way Cyclone needs to be changed is DRs with only itself (as it does now) Same duration as well and for feral druids when used through predatory swiftness puts the ability on a 15-30 second CD.

This way Ferals aren't restricted to only using cyclone once every 30 and would have to cast it if they wanted to constantly peel
And this also does not affect either boomkin or resto.

But lets be serious blizzard balances around nerfing things that aren't the issue and dancing around the problem, Like Symbiosis Iceblock >.>

Edited by pyrellael_3428244, 15 January 2013 - 07:35 PM.

[Lackz]

if the cyclone DR changes go through druids will only be viable with warlocks and spriest.

cyclone is balanced as it is for resto and boomkins, shorter duration than polly/fear but undispellable.  How is an 8 second undispellable, spammable cc balanced?

[Justwoo]

rpd next patch will be fun

[Seu]

first rdruid nerf then holy paladin nerf before even touching rsham


next season could honestly be pretty fun at this point if they could just address the fact that rshams, especially in light of clone dr and blinding light change, are now the best healer for every comp.

[Zilea]

I don't get it, 8 second cc that can't be dispelled? Is this for real ? Just make cyclone fucking dispellable and let it be a mirror of repentance

On another note, life swap needs to be disc only, hunter pets should not be able to cc, repentance needs to be 6s, clone needs to be 6s and dispellable, and totemic restoration needs to be removed. If those changes go through it will be a very close to perfect patch

Edited by Zilea, 15 January 2013 - 09:38 PM.

[Baht]

Dizzeeyo, on 15 January 2013 - 05:29 PM, said:

Nice to see you are not just a blind retard in the Mage forums but everywhere else as well, ele shamans are gona be one of the best casters next patch outside of shadow priests

ele is getting a survivability buff and sure thats huge and will make it a lot better. but the purge nerf will hurt a lot more than ppl realise. purge is currently 50% of my pressure as ele. which is literally reduced by 50% with the nerf to purge glyph. so while i do think ele will be less frustrating to play, i cannot see how its supposed to turn into one of the best casters. If say, they buff lightning bolt dmg so you can put out some sustained pressure again i think it will be quite good. not OP but definently viable. without a sustained buff i doubt you will see more ele's around

[affix]

Zilea, on 15 January 2013 - 09:31 PM, said:

I don't get it, 8 second cc that can't be dispelled? Is this for real ? Just make cyclone fucking dispellable and let it be a mirror of repentance

On another note, life swap needs to be disc only, hunter pets should not be able to cc, repentance needs to be 6s, clone needs to be 6s and dispellable, and totemic restoration needs to be removed. If those changes go through it will be a very close to perfect patch

What comp do you think Mages will be running next patch with no Druid synergy and no imp CS?