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#1 Thilz

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Posted 12 January 2013 - 08:33 PM

I'm convinced that if you are a rsham you can not beat any KFC consistently without actually running KFC yourself.. It's so dumb. Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think I am.

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Posted 12 January 2013 - 08:46 PM

mage/moonkin/rsham
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#3 Djandawg

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Posted 12 January 2013 - 09:04 PM

You can't beat kfc consistently unless you are melee cleave or kfc.

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Posted 13 January 2013 - 12:18 AM

You can't beat KFC consistently unless you have three players that can consistently outplay the other three players.

There are plenty a lot of Resto shaman teams not playing KFC, with pretty good win loss considering the number of KFCs.

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Posted 13 January 2013 - 12:21 AM

farm kfc as disc ele mage EVERY DAY not even joking
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Posted 13 January 2013 - 01:55 AM

godcomp with any healer can beat kfc, shaman kfc probably being harder but its still possible

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Posted 13 January 2013 - 02:38 AM

now just try facing kfc without a resto shaman on your team!

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Posted 13 January 2013 - 05:00 PM

View PostHektiik, on 13 January 2013 - 12:18 AM, said:

You can't beat KFC consistently unless you have three players that can consistently outplay the other three players.

There are plenty a lot of Resto shaman teams not playing KFC, with pretty good win loss considering the number of KFCs.
You can not outplay broken damage/cc. You'll beat kfc CONSISTENTLY only if you play with 3 classes that can't get one shot, stuff like feral/holy pala/warrior.
You'll also beat shaman kfc with pala kfc.

Edited by Djandawg, 13 January 2013 - 05:01 PM.


#9 Jarzombek

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Posted 20 January 2013 - 12:10 PM

We're having tons of trouble vs KFC as kittycleave with rshaman. The few times we've won is when the hunter is overextending just as DR wears off on the pala. Or sometimes getting a kill on the pala when he's in a bad spot, either with instant bubble removal or he gets killed while locked out.

What happens is they sit on feral all game long, we're cycling def CDs on their CDs and when im in one of plenty instant CCs. Feral is often in a stun when I'm getting scatter traped, and warrior can't intervene because it's used on feral for dmg reduction. As of lately our feral has been going Heart of the wild, but we're not getting a kill without any damage going out...

If only silence shot didnt silence it'd be ok :P , but now we are defenetly not beating KFC consistently..

PS. lf wargames vs KFC

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Posted 20 January 2013 - 12:39 PM

Playing SP / War / Pally we can pretty much farm KFC without too much effort

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Posted 20 January 2013 - 12:52 PM

View PostKoshimo, on 13 January 2013 - 01:55 AM, said:

godcomp with any healer can beat kfc, shaman kfc probably being harder but its still possible

all the kfc needs to do for win against godcomp is train the spriest and get a trap on druid and a shockwave>silenceshot on priest at the same time gg

if its an Hpally kfc you can also train mage trap druid, HoJ priest
warrior95% uptime on mage since warrior is immune to roots lol Master Calls, Freedom and intervene

Edited by Coldizzle, 20 January 2013 - 01:19 PM.


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Posted 20 January 2013 - 02:24 PM

View PostJarzombek, on 20 January 2013 - 12:10 PM, said:

We're having tons of trouble vs KFC as kittycleave with rshaman. The few times we've won is when the hunter is overextending just as DR wears off on the pala. Or sometimes getting a kill on the pala when he's in a bad spot, either with instant bubble removal or he gets killed while locked out.

What happens is they sit on feral all game long, we're cycling def CDs on their CDs and when im in one of plenty instant CCs. Feral is often in a stun when I'm getting scatter traped, and warrior can't intervene because it's used on feral for dmg reduction. As of lately our feral has been going Heart of the wild, but we're not getting a kill without any damage going out...

If only silence shot didnt silence it'd be ok :P , but now we are defenetly not beating KFC consistently..

PS. lf wargames vs KFC

Best bet is to play defensively as possible. War/druid sit hunter and you stay waaaay back. And when it might even look like you'll get CCed, the druid should start running away/kiting. As well, hexes should be used on war to start(shockwave>hex preferably). You can start playing more aggressive after the pally bubbles/trinket and/or hunter uses both deters.

You can obviously start out aggressive when the war/feral has full CDs to try and force trinkets/deters.. Just don't try to out zerg kfc.

This is the only time I have ever had an issue against shaman kitty cleave as pally kfc. They simply played as defensively as they could until quite a few CDs were blown on our end. Trying to play a rush down game just simply doesn't work against kfc as shaman kitty cleave. Far too many CDs on the kfcs end.

It's an extremely up hill fight for you guys because...well druids take a lot of damage. Oh, and all the instant CC from the hunter.

Anyways, that worked against us a bit... Well, worked out much better for them than just trying to kill the hunter or pally out right. Also, the warrior should ALWAYS have something up for you...to try and eat traps. Be it intervene or heroic leap. The 6sec 20%damage reduction is not worth it if you are going to eat a full trap.. So you should yell at him if he doesn't save one of those for you.

Edited by Deonto, 20 January 2013 - 02:29 PM.


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Posted 21 January 2013 - 09:23 AM

we are playing wls and also dont have much problems against KFC, remember how much Hunters was highrated the last saisons ? ye not so much cause there are not many good hunters out there. Just tunnel the hunter down..cc the war ,they cant handle it and 90% of them dont even land a trap. This was my experience in MoP.

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Posted 21 January 2013 - 10:02 AM

It's actually pretty hard to handle a KFC as a resto shaman, but not impossible
You can't make mistakes and you need to predict the CC coming out from the hunter and try to put ground down since they need to lose one gcd killing it or even try to aura mastery his silencing shot.
It's all about avoiding cc's which is not THAT hard since you can always try to stay on hunter's los and communicate your partners when you can't

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Posted 21 January 2013 - 10:09 AM

View Postforteh, on 20 January 2013 - 12:39 PM, said:

Playing SP / War / Pally we can pretty much farm KFC without too much effort
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