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[Dizzeeyo]

pripripriest, on 06 January 2013 - 12:44 AM, said:

you r forgetting back then, as in wotlk, blanket was reduced by class talents like unbreakable will for priests. it was barely 2 secs vs 8 secs lock out. now it's just a flat win button as it grants 4 secs

no actually, before wotlk most talents were a chance to resist the silence, not reduce the duration

[ROKMODE]

I always thought blanket silences were a stupid design. It's always been a crutch system. You fuck up your interrupt or get it faked, and you still have a crutch blanket to rely on. The game is usually designed around it though, so it's usually not smart to mess with those kinds of core mechanics. I can't comment on the state of the game now though.

[Dizzeeyo]

Classiks, on 06 January 2013 - 12:44 AM, said:

Doesnt matter, mages are not the only ones who think they "deserve" the one shot if they target something while spamming (srsly spamming) every cc they have blankets 1/4th sheeps 1/4th fears whatever which is stupid, on the healer WHILE KILLING HIM!

need to gut half the cc in this game and remove instant cc and instant casts (to an extent atleast make them less powerful).

yus make every game melee cleave vs melee cleave, no cc, whoever crits the most wins!

[inhume]

wonder how long spriests will continue to be gods before they are the ones on the nerf bat end.

[kannetixx]

Classiks, on 06 January 2013 - 12:44 AM, said:

Doesnt matter, mages are not the only ones who think they "deserve" the one shot if they target something while spamming (srsly spamming) every cc they have blankets 1/4th sheeps 1/4th fears whatever which is stupid, on the healer WHILE KILLING HIM!

need to gut half the cc in this game and remove instant cc and instant casts (to an extent atleast make them less powerful).

then get rid of 90% of the interrupts in the game.

[Braindance]

kannetixx, on 07 January 2013 - 04:14 AM, said:

then get rid of 90% of the interrupts in the game.

Why are interrupts bad? Stuns etc are yes, but why interrupt? It's not like it's a free lockout

[kannetixx]

Braindance, on 07 January 2013 - 04:18 AM, said:

Why are interrupts bad? Stuns etc are yes, but why interrupt? It's not like it's a free lockout

there are too many of them that is why .. ive used this example before and i ll use it again suppose you're going against a shaman TSG as a caster

you have to deal with
pummel
garrote
2 grips
grounding
shock

before you can actually get a cast off and if the team is smart then you are simply playing the juke game while being trained into the ground granted you have teammates for CC's and such but interrupts / silences in general are a bit out of control with quite a few comps.

[Braindance]

kannetixx, on 07 January 2013 - 04:46 AM, said:

there are too many of them that is why .. ive used this example before and i ll use it again suppose you're going against a shaman TSG as a caster

you have to deal with
pummel
garrote
2 grips
grounding
shock

before you can actually get a cast off and if the team is smart then you are simply playing the juke game while being trained into the ground granted you have teammates for CC's and such but interrupts / silences in general are a bit out of control with quite a few comps.

That's what I am saying - interrupts are ok. The other things u described are not (grip, garrote, etc). You should be rewarded for landing an interrupt because it's not foolproof

[hairpiece]

Braindance, on 07 January 2013 - 05:03 AM, said:

That's what I am saying - interrupts are ok. The other things u described are not (grip, garrote, etc). You should be rewarded for landing an interrupt because it's not foolproof

they are interrupting you from casting, and is their primary function (except for death grip)

[Braindance]

hairpiece, on 07 January 2013 - 05:07 AM, said:

they are interrupting you from casting, and is their primary function (except for death grip)

I am talking about interrupt like pummel, kick etc not silences like garrote or stuns or grips etc.

[kannetixx]

Braindance, on 07 January 2013 - 05:03 AM, said:

That's what I am saying - interrupts are ok. The other things u described are not (grip, garrote, etc). You should be rewarded for landing an interrupt because it's not foolproof

you're right i was basically generalizing all of those together in a way if that makes sense ..
basically there are way too many ways to stop casts right now that instants run rampant which is just bad game design overall

soon we will see every class getting aura mastery to combat the interrupts / abilities to stop casting.

[Braindance]

kannetixx, on 07 January 2013 - 06:19 AM, said:

you're right i was basically generalizing all of those together in a way if that makes sense ..
basically there are way too many ways to stop casts right now that instants run rampant which is just bad game design overall

soon we will see every class getting aura mastery to combat the interrupts / abilities to stop casting.

it's not only  that - they put too many interrupt and moving like casting skills and interrupt immunities. Dunno, they have to remove all that cc and some of the cc counter to balance it a bit. At the other hand I don't want to go back to BC with pummel  on gcd - it's too hard to actually balance it now b/c they have to remove too many things,

[Synkz]

i've always hated blanket interrupts

[kannetixx]

Braindance, on 07 January 2013 - 06:29 AM, said:

it's not only  that - they put too many interrupt and moving like casting skills and interrupt immunities. Dunno, they have to remove all that cc and some of the cc counter to balance it a bit. At the other hand I don't want to go back to BC with pummel  on gcd - it's too hard to actually balance it now b/c they have to remove too many things,

agreed its the blizzard way to try and make sense out of something by adding something else then that something else has to have another thing to counter it and its just a vicious cycle of non sense.

[bIlliAn]

Claynz, on 04 January 2013 - 02:14 AM, said:

And fucking change the Honor system... need to grind like 40k honor to get full honor gear on alts + upgrades, no wonder why people bot i don't blame them. Bring back old AV were you summon Ice Lord & Forest Lord etc those fun BGs were you get honor for killing and if you kill a high ranked player you get even more honor.

Paying $30 for HonorBuddy fixes this problem.

As for RBG exploiting, THAT needs to be addressed.

[Claynz]

bIlliAn, on 07 January 2013 - 02:41 PM, said:

Paying $30 for HonorBuddy fixes this problem.

As for RBG exploiting, THAT needs to be addressed.

Herpderp i do use it, still sucks not like i want to.

[Rylexcamel]

i belive blanket cs should stay, just lower the silence part to same as it was in wotlk (cuz of silence reduc talents) .
2 sec blanket cs should be good

Edited by Rylexcamel, 07 January 2013 - 06:08 PM.

[Bigmoran]

bIlliAn, on 07 January 2013 - 02:41 PM, said:

Paying $30 for HonorBuddy fixes this problem.

As for RBG exploiting, THAT needs to be addressed.

Kinda funny that the RBG windraiding is causing some collateral damage to people who aren't participating in the raiding at all. Apparently people in Abn's groups are getting bans because of accidentally spam queing into windraiding teams.

[Trevo]

I gotta say that I really, really hate this change. The silence is very essential when I play my character, especially when it comes to defensive play. I don't like that you won't be able to stop incoming instant CC for yourself or your team, protect your novas, sheeps, deeps or well, say Ice Block vs mass dispel for example.

Healers or in fact all casters have their instants and rarely cast anyway, but yes I agree, it's not that great when you get insta ring into insta fear into insta blanket silence or whatever after that, that sucks balls when CS is used as an extra insta cc for the healer. Think that's why insta polies and rings, fears and whatever long instant cc should be removed in most parts.

Feels like they're nerfing or removing the good stuff and not touching the gay stuff.

just my 2 cents

[Thaya]

They could let the silences stay but make them DR.