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#21 wambafat

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 12:08 AM

View Posthairpiece, on 01 January 2013 - 10:58 PM, said:

I don't know i think it worked out pretty fine in wrath with those numbers, it even makes the lower brackets a lot easier for people because unless they are people on a new team with a low mmr you don't really fight as many fully geared people, so you fight more people on your gear level.  That's one of the many reasons alts were so much easier in wrath, you could zone into 2s or so and your opponents at low levels would be at low gear levels too not full malevolent tier 1 weapon stuck in in 1400s immedietly blowing up any alt in blues you have.
Ratings in Wrath, especially the later seasons, were much higher then they were now across the board.

#22 Pritchard

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 02:06 AM

View Postwambafat, on 02 January 2013 - 12:08 AM, said:

Ratings in Wrath, especially the later seasons, were much higher then they were now across the board.

well yea, but the lower brackets, mostly 1700 and lower, were much easier to get through on alts, as the people who actually couldn't get higher for full season gear had the same gear.  idk it just felt easier for multi classers as well as more fun for everyone, and something to aim for, but i guess with things like rbg's in things like requiring 1650 for some gear aren't as important as its just way easier.  Maybe they will add rating requirements for things but make them even higher due to rating inflation??

#23 gangstalicious

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 03:14 AM

they need to work fast, with their roller coaster balancing and the new system that blocks fotm rerolls they are gunna lose money

#24 dicon

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 05:27 AM

who cares about gear, people want to enjoy arena. just give it out without rating requierments.

#25 Regent

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 06:12 AM

I really hope they add rating requirements for every piece of gear by every 50 points. I had done some games on my alt dk who just hit 90 and has like 310k health facing full 18/18 malevent warriors in the 1300 bracket...

#26 Pritchard

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 07:46 AM

View Postdicon, on 02 January 2013 - 05:27 AM, said:

who cares about gear, people want to enjoy arena. just give it out without rating requierments.

how are players new to pvp supposed to enjoy pvp when people are full geared in the 1300s and one shot them?

#27 thrudgel

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 08:05 AM

View PostRegent, on 02 January 2013 - 06:12 AM, said:

I really hope they add rating requirements for every piece of gear by every 50 points. I had done some games on my alt dk who just hit 90 and has like 310k health facing full 18/18 malevent warriors in the 1300 bracket...
i qued with a warrior in the 1200s and even with max gear they don't have all their abilities available like shield wall or disarm. The guy said "I don't have a macro for it sorry"

Honestly the biggest difference between 2200 and 1400 shouldn't be gear it should just be who cares and who doesn't

#28 WildeHilde

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 08:23 AM

I agree, the elite gear is a fun concept, but it doesn't say too much because of boosting anyways. An even playing field with gear is enough. Add mounts/transmog gear/tabards or other cosmetic stuff for higher ratings / showing off. I always liked the idea of giving the current rank one team a cosmetic aura. Rating inflation should make sure people continue to play, even with full gear. It will also mean that queues on higher ratings are better, as teams that play a lot get higher, but probably stomped by teams that play less but better.

#29 zajklon

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 03:08 PM

this stupid system is disgusting. dinged 90 1 week ago on my warrior. we have no trouble at all beating bads and double dps as sp/warrior (both with full dreadfull and 1 piece malov/ crafted ilevel 466 blue weapon. however getting above 1500 is impossible... my shockwaves hit for 6k and when i meet another warrior, no matter how bad they are, can't get them below 30 % hp no matter if they start at 100 or 31% and they blow up my face afterwards with 10 times my damage.. in wotlk and tbc you could even get  2k or t2 in blues and honor gear -_-

#30 Draakex

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 04:21 PM

would love to see the old system, like the one in s8, apply to the gear-requirements in 5.2
you can play as good as you want, without at least t1-weap you can hardly get above 1.500...

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#31 heyyoulol

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 05:10 PM

delete upgrade gear system shit
give a t1 weapon in honor

everything fixed

Edited by heyyoulol, 02 January 2013 - 05:15 PM.


#32 zajklon

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 05:35 PM

give t1 to everyone for honor
give t2 at 1800

give cosmetic shit starting from 2k all the way up to 2.5k at 50 rating increments

Edited by zajklon, 02 January 2013 - 05:36 PM.


#33 Regent

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 06:56 PM

View Postzajklon, on 02 January 2013 - 05:35 PM, said:

give t1 to everyone for honor
give t2 at 1800

give cosmetic shit starting from 2k all the way up to 2.5k at 50 rating increments

I think it should be:
Honor gear at any rating, t1 weapon doesn't require season total and can be aquired at 1500 rating, starting at like 1250 and every 50 points you go up a new conquest item becomes available. T2 weapon at the end of the 50 point chain.  T2 cosmetic gear stays at 2.2k. New season tabards at 2.3k.

Edited by Regent, 02 January 2013 - 06:56 PM.


#34 Seu

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 07:16 PM

View Postzajklon, on 02 January 2013 - 05:35 PM, said:

give t1 to everyone for honor
give t2 at 1800

give cosmetic shit starting from 2k all the way up to 2.5k at 50 rating increments

yeah, 2.4 u can get the highwarlord transmog set maybe ;o

#35 Blackrat5521

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 07:57 PM

lots of changes to be implented

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 09:31 PM

View PostRegent, on 02 January 2013 - 06:56 PM, said:

I think it should be:
Honor gear at any rating, t1 weapon doesn't require season total and can be aquired at 1500 rating, starting at like 1250 and every 50 points you go up a new conquest item becomes available. T2 weapon at the end of the 50 point chain.  T2 cosmetic gear stays at 2.2k. New season tabards at 2.3k.


ratings for gear shouldn't be that low (1250) especially if the new inflation system goes in.  But then again, I think blizzards stance is they want all gear to be available for every player for some reason,, so we prolly won't see any ratings for gear at all except t2.


Either way, for next season, I'm assuming we will have an honor weapon as S12 T1 will prolly be moved down to honor.  The gear gap between honor gear/current season gear will still be huge though.  Enough to make the skill part not matter that much.

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 09:56 PM

They should make it like GW2 and give us full PvP gear right away that can only be used in arena and the second you enter a dungeon or LFR you're naked.
Obviously nerds are going to whine but it'd still be the best for the competitive side of WoW.

#38 Pritchard

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 10:16 PM

View PostHyrmine, on 02 January 2013 - 09:56 PM, said:

They should make it like GW2 and give us full PvP gear right away that can only be used in arena and the second you enter a dungeon or LFR you're naked.
Obviously nerds are going to whine but it'd still be the best for the competitive side of WoW.


i defffffffffffffffffffinitly wish this would happen.  i think someone brought it up to gc and he replied that if they make it like that it will take the    'mmo feeling out of of the game'.  But the game would be sooooo much better

#39 Syia

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Posted 03 January 2013 - 12:27 AM

the problem in gw2 is that there's no carrot to chase in pvp without gear. It lowered participation a lot.

#40 Vilerose

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Posted 03 January 2013 - 02:42 AM

S8: R1 in full furious
S12: 1200 MMR with equivalent gear

Why did I even level

Edited by Vilerose, 03 January 2013 - 02:59 AM.





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