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[kannetixx]

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@ChritznL Frostbolt does fine damage. It's just not instant.


what the fuck is this guy smoking???

[Mistyflip]

hehehe he hehehehehheh

[Snackumz]

all i know is im tryna get a hit of whatever is in his blunt

[Improve]

lates mcgates mages

kinda sucks though cuz the day I got my t1 wep mages got nerfed :|

[Claynz]

Well they did state they will turn all damage down and burst and when they are happy with low damage they will revert the pvp power & healing back to full.

[Saikx]

Well that retard is looking at PvE numbers and then says, Frostbolt is fine in PvP

[Giky]

hahahahaha, ye thats why all people try to cast it, its so goooooooooood

[hairpiece]

frostbolt hits for between 12-20k non crit in pvp, sometimes even less.  I could hit a 12k frostbolt crit at the end of wrath.  



RIP Old School Shatter, not worth doing anymore.


I personally would like to see FoF function like it used to, no increased ice lance damage, but treats all spells as if frozen, and can proc off of FB and maybe even CoC.  This gets rid of some of our instant cast damage, as well as making frostbolt a usable spell again and is a step towards making a frost mage, actually a frost mage.

A frost mage not using frostbolt is like a UA warlock not using UA, etc...its just ridiculous.



sorry i actually overestimated frostbolt damage, mine is currently hitting for 10k non crit on people gemming pvp power and not resil, and i am fully geared.  I can get up to 11.8k non crit with 3 stack up, definitely fine for sure.

Edited by hairpiece, 30 December 2012 - 01:58 AM.

[Regent]

I don't think I have every had a mage cast a frostbolt on me in like 300 games this season. I never thought I would be one to back up mage buffs, but there should be benefits to actually casting instead of just trying to gib someone every time deep/bomb is up.

[kenney1111]

hairpiece, on 30 December 2012 - 12:49 AM, said:

frostbolt hits for between 12-20k non crit in pvp, sometimes even less.  I could hit a 12k frostbolt crit at the end of wrath.  



RIP Old School Shatter, not worth doing anymore.


I personally would like to see FoF function like it used to, no increased ice lance damage, but treats all spells as if frozen, and can proc off of FB and maybe even CoC.  This gets rid of some of our instant cast damage, as well as making frostbolt a usable spell again and is a step towards making a frost mage, actually a frost mage.

A frost mage not using frostbolt is like a UA warlock not using UA, etc...its just ridiculous.



sorry i actually overestimated frostbolt damage, mine is currently hitting for 10k non crit on people gemming pvp power and not resil, and i am fully geared.  I can get up to 11.8k non crit with 3 stack up, definitely fine for sure.

better then my 10k wrath eclipsed

[Athená]

The only times mages cast frostbolts is when someone is dead, some depraved version of tea bagging

[deprivelol]

yeah frostbolt is fine....... jk does same dmg from previous xpac

[Dizzeeyo]

hairpiece, on 30 December 2012 - 12:49 AM, said:

I personally would like to see FoF function like it used to, no increased ice lance damage, but treats all spells as if frozen, and can proc off of FB and maybe even CoC.  This gets rid of some of our instant cast damage, as well as making frostbolt a usable spell again and is a step towards making a frost mage, actually a frost mage.

but also makes icelance not worth casting over frostbolt in pve, and so will never happen

Burtthemage, on 30 December 2012 - 03:10 AM, said:

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why do u still have access

Edited by Dizzeeyo, 31 December 2012 - 04:56 PM.

[Toxile]

Hits fine but its not instant...I dont get it, Because its not instant it should hit for less or what? I don't know if i'm not thinking straight here but if i fake the 3000 interrupts finally get away from the 3000 gap closers and stuns and other random shit i'm rewarded with a massive 12k frostbolt on 400k hp target.

[Dizzeeyo]

Toxile, on 31 December 2012 - 05:17 PM, said:

Hits fine but its not instant...I dont get it, Because its not instant it should hit for less or what? I don't know if i'm not thinking straight here but if i fake the 3000 interrupts finally get away from the 3000 gap closers and stuns and other random shit i'm rewarded with a massive 12k frostbolt on 400k hp target.

i think what he was trying to say, but for some reason he enjoys typing as off topic as possible, is that frostbolt damage is considered fine compared to the damage range of other instant cast mage spells, the problem with it is that it is not instant cast. they can either leave the damage as it is now and then the spec works in pve (works as in casts something other then frostbolt), or they can make the damage stronger to make the spell worth casting in pvp, but then the spec is broken in pve since you would never cast anything else

Toxile, on 31 December 2012 - 05:17 PM, said:

if i fake the 3000 interrupts finally get away from the 3000 gap closers and stuns and other random shit...

so why do so many mages seem to want to move away from having lots of instant cast damage outside of frostbolt to having to actually rely on frostbolt for damage?

Edited by Dizzeeyo, 31 December 2012 - 06:22 PM.

[Enaina]

hairpiece, on 30 December 2012 - 12:49 AM, said:

frostbolt hits for between 12-20k non crit in pvp, sometimes even less.  I could hit a 12k frostbolt crit at the end of wrath.  

More than lightning bolt. Welcome to casting btw

[Dizzeeyo]

Enaina, on 31 December 2012 - 06:15 PM, said:

More than lightning bolt. Welcome to casting btw

if only mages and ele shamans had other ways to do damage then frostbolt and lightning bolt

owait

[hairpiece]

Enaina, on 31 December 2012 - 06:15 PM, said:

More than lightning bolt. Welcome to casting btw

what do you mean?  i cast even less now with this dumb nether tempest spec.  the only thing i need to cast now is poly.

casting for all classes  should be rewarded, it used to be the instant casts that did less damage so that you could do some damage while on the move, and burst while casting, now its just lulz my instants hit 10x harder than my casts, why cast ever.

Dizzeeyo, on 31 December 2012 - 06:13 PM, said:

so why do so many mages seem to want to move away from having lots of instant cast damage outside of frostbolt to having to actually rely on frostbolt for damage?

because most of us want the old playstyle back, for mages that have played it for a long time, the current state of mages is not fun, it wasn't even fun with frost bomb, and it wasn't even fun in cata.

i right now would take frostbolt being usable again with or without an interrupt nerf, but something needs to be done as far as interrupts go as well, be it dr'd interrupts or something to stop teams that have 6+ ways of stopping you from casting.

[kannetixx]

Enaina, on 31 December 2012 - 06:15 PM, said:

More than lightning bolt. Welcome to casting btw

funny thing about elemental is you use other elements to do damage

frost mages cant even use frostbolt cause it results in death if we get locked out from it and the damage is meh

[ApplejackxD]

Dizzeeyo, on 31 December 2012 - 04:55 PM, said:

why do u still have access

Just report him and he will soon have enough infractions considering all the shit he posts.