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#21 Dråthik1296679993

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Posted 22 December 2012 - 02:42 AM

I'm sure these changes aren't final (please god), but I found it funny that blizzard believes warlocks needed more nerfs when we are probably in the worst condition we have ever been in.

Edited by Dråthik1296679993, 22 December 2012 - 02:42 AM.


#22 Peacesells

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Posted 22 December 2012 - 02:50 AM

View PostDråthik1296679993, on 22 December 2012 - 02:42 AM, said:

I'm sure these changes aren't final (please god), but I found it funny that blizzard believes warlocks needed more nerfs when we are probably in the worst condition we have ever been in.

Because you had always been god class before
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#23 Dråthik1296679993

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Posted 22 December 2012 - 02:59 AM

That's not a logical reason to completely annihilate the class.

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Posted 22 December 2012 - 03:02 AM

View PostPeacesells, on 22 December 2012 - 02:50 AM, said:

Because you had always been god class before

gtfo forever duelist. just because a class has been or is good now, doesnt mean they should suck ever. I wish warriors werent bad at the end of cata. why would i want any class to suck? the answer is i dont.  It would be extremely bias and foolish if my entire goal was to hope that everyone was bad while my class was god.

its a good thing people like u dont balance things.

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Posted 22 December 2012 - 03:02 AM

Doesn't surprise me about the warlock nerfs.. I think I remember reading somewhere that gc was saying most of the complaints in pvp were about warlocks(How he came to this i'm not sure, never even see warlocks since the demo nerf)... Plus warlocks apparently rape in pve so nerfs were expected. Hopefully these patch notes get changed quite a bit.

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Posted 22 December 2012 - 03:07 AM

I feel like we just got completely gutted, as much as everyone hates blood fear it made us wanted in teams, we weren't even top tier http://www.crossladd...om/arena/stats/ 6% representation on par with dks?

the biggest joke was the nerf to our sacrificial pact

blood fear did so many things for us that we wont be able to do anymore :( fearing pounce clones, along with stopping mage openers on our healer wont happen anymore, good luck ever fearing a shaman next patch with 30second tremor and rogues viability going way up. Its going to be like season 11 without the damage and ua protection doesnt mean anything with the new dispell system. Blood Fear gave us more damage some people dont realize this but it lets you get to a better position and makes it so you didnt get locked out or spend less time faking so our damage will drop a fair bit after this nerf, even though their is no damage nerfs this will greatly affect it.

I agree blood fear could have used a nerf, I actually think this nerf would be fine if we got to keep regular fear, but fearing once every 30seconds (two whole DR's completely.rapes warlocks)



destro got hit with g sac spec also, along with affliction with the spell lock change

Edited by dawtz, 22 December 2012 - 03:17 AM.


#27 Coldizzle

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Posted 22 December 2012 - 03:10 AM

View PostZerlog, on 22 December 2012 - 02:39 AM, said:

You guys think your nerfs are bad?

deep will now break if you do any frostspell that does dmg on it(if it crits, well 50% passive y is gna break)
any spell any tree

#28 Dråthik1296679993

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Posted 22 December 2012 - 03:13 AM

View Postdawtz, on 22 December 2012 - 03:07 AM, said:

I feel like we just got completely gutted, as much as everyone hates blood fear it made us wanted in teams, we weren't even top tier http://www.crossladd...om/arena/stats/ 6% representation on par with dks?

the biggest joke was the nerf to our sacrificial pact

blood fear did so many things for us that we wont be able to do anymore :( fearing pounce clones, along with stopping mage openers on our healer wont happen anymore, good luck ever fearing a shaman next patch with 30second tremor and rogues viability going way up. Its going to be like season 11 without the damage and ua protection doesnt mean anything with the new dispell system.

I agree blood fear could have used a nerf, I actually think this nerf would be fine if we got to keep regular fear, but fearing once every 30seconds (two whole DR's completely.rapes warlocks)



destro got hit with g sac spec also, along with affliction with the spell lock change

I agree with everything you said but I believe the blood fear is now a proc that lasts 60 seconds on a 30 second cooldown, but it does not replace castable fear, if I read correctly.

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Posted 22 December 2012 - 03:40 AM

View PostDråthik1296679993, on 22 December 2012 - 03:13 AM, said:

I agree with everything you said but I believe the blood fear is now a proc that lasts 60 seconds on a 30 second cooldown, but it does not replace castable fear, if I read correctly.

it says :"While active, any time an enemy melee attack deals damage to the caster they will become afflicted by Fear. Replaces Fear. 1 charge. Lasts 60 sec"

that says the attacker will be afflicted by fear. that means the melee will be feared and we wont choose who gets feared.

Edited by brosearch, 22 December 2012 - 03:41 AM.


#30 Dråthik1296679993

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Posted 22 December 2012 - 03:44 AM

The caster will be afflicted by fear meaning it is a proc, basically when we say "holy shit im popping all my defensives" and you're still dying through it, your character sympathizes and is afraid. Giving you one instant fear but not removing the casted fear.

#31 majorblood

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Posted 22 December 2012 - 03:45 AM

Well 5.2 seems like a good time to reroll shadow priest based off these changes. At least I'll be on par with everyone else gear-wise.

View PostDråthik1296679993, on 22 December 2012 - 03:44 AM, said:

The caster will be afflicted by fear meaning it is a proc, basically when we say "holy shit im popping all my defensives" and you're still dying through it, your character sympathizes and is afraid. Giving you one instant fear but not removing the casted fear.
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Edited by majorblood, 22 December 2012 - 03:46 AM.


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Posted 22 December 2012 - 04:48 AM

Blood Fear should be something like this : while activated any melee attacker that deals damage to the warlock is horrified for 4 seconds, cannot afflict the same target more than once, 10 secs duration, 1 min cd,(edit) no health cost ( should not self harm self when using a cd to defend ourselves, seems conflicting imo).

Edited by Distorpia, 22 December 2012 - 04:52 AM.


#33 Paulweezy

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Posted 22 December 2012 - 05:08 AM

not one change to shadow priest? lol time to make it my main.

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Posted 22 December 2012 - 05:38 AM

21/12/2012
Deep Freeze is broken by spells which benefit from Shatter.

Edited by Coldizzle, 22 December 2012 - 05:38 AM.


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Posted 22 December 2012 - 05:49 AM

View PostColdizzle, on 22 December 2012 - 05:38 AM, said:

21/12/2012
Deep Freeze is broken by spells which benefit from Shatter.

We get it.
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Posted 22 December 2012 - 05:53 AM

Glyph of Demon Hunting In addition, Soulshatter becomes Provocation which taunts your target, Twilight Ward becomes Fury Ward which will absorb all schools of damage and Shadow Bolt becomes Demonic Slash. Shadow Bolt becomes Demonic Slash, and Fear becomes Sleep.
does anyone know if berserker rage/lichborn breaks sleep? or if the sleep is only on casted fears or the new blood fear as well?

Edited by inspectahdeck, 22 December 2012 - 05:53 AM.


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Posted 22 December 2012 - 06:05 AM

View Postbrosearch, on 22 December 2012 - 03:02 AM, said:

its a good thing people like u dont balance things.

After looking at the changes, I think they do.
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Posted 22 December 2012 - 06:11 AM

Quite literally nothing but nerfs

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Posted 22 December 2012 - 06:17 AM

So after reading a bit....I think sleep is a disorient. Am I the only one that noticed that glyph? Idk about the rest of you but I think being able to cc a warrior/dk reliably is a huge buff...especially if it works with the new blood fear.

Edited by inspectahdeck, 22 December 2012 - 06:31 AM.


#40 Coldizzle

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Posted 22 December 2012 - 06:18 AM

i hope they will add something they give my blanked cs back also SL




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