56 replies to this topic

[Rith]

There needs to be something that allows you to catch up to gear faster. Its so annoying being 3~4 weeks behind in gear and always fighting teams who are way more geared than you. Its even worse when this game completely relies on gear rather than anything else. It totally discourages people from even doing arena who are super behind on gear. I don't even want to join arenas on my alt because I know i'll get 1 shot before a warrior even pops his cooldowns.

Completely agree with this post

Edited by Rith, 19 December 2012 - 06:50 AM.

[lobster]

completely agree, this is even worse for hybrids trying to do more than one roll ....


not only was my shaman an alt but I want to heal and enhance...

buying 2 sets of gear is bad enough, buying two sets of gear on an alt is unconscionable.

[maarko]

Yep, I decided to start playing again a couple months after MoP release and now i'm basically forced to wait till next season in order to be competetive. Nobody wants to play with someone undergeared. The gear disparity between tiers is so high that you stand little chance, even against much much worse players.

[Bamflol]

i was thinking about this for awhile and i figured i would share what I came up with since other people obviously find gearing alts will take forever now.

Why not have it so instead of using your conquest/honor to actually buy pieces, you unlock and account wide slot. What i mean buy this is, say you earned 2200 conquest points, and you want to buy your head piece. Rather than buying the item itself, you can unlock the headpiece slot and then you are now able to equip the headpiece (which you can get for free at the pvp vendor). Unlocking an item slot goes account wide.

What this does: Say you have a paladin and warlock both at 90, you buy the headpiece slot on your paladin, you can then buy the headpiece on your lock and paladin.

Upgrades would work the same, basically you upgrade your slot and it goes account wide. So basically near the end of the season, by the time you have all your t2, fully upgraded, you can level an alt and just pick up all the gear for free and upgraded (not the t2 versions obviously) or have it so you still have to atleast grind for the upgrades separately for each character.

Easy way out for some people but hey, it fixes the huge alt dilemma.

Edited by Bamflol, 19 December 2012 - 06:53 PM.

[sounds_]

I can see them doing something similar with the bind-on-account reputation boosts, where you reach X amount of conquest points and can buy the on-use item which increases conquest gained by 100% or something, doubt they'll do much more than that.. :\

[Giky]

Conquest gear cost should be lowered now with this item upgrade stuff

[Ayume]

  >:-(

[Ahlaundoh]

not being able to gear alts is probably the worst thing that's happened to the game in a while

[Hackattack3]

Basically what everyone else said + gearing hybrids.


I have to make the decision to I upgrade my mal gear to 2/2 or pick up a feral/balance set for fun.  Tough choice, makes the game feel like "work" like I'm paying bills using conq to upgrade mal on resto gear.


Ideas to Add:

1.  Some type of arena/sorting system based on ilevel to separate geared vs under geared people in 2s/3s.  

2.  Once you buy a piece of gear you can buy that same slot at zero conq cost.  That way my 2.2k conquest for resto shoulders allows me to buy balance and feral shoulders at little penalty.  Still reserve upgrades for gear specific.


Long Live Hybrids.

[ROKMODE]

Grinding for gear makes me want to slit my wrists. Could never farm bgs without falling asleep

[Crawthz]

I made a suggestion to similar thread EU forums;

After buying an item from PvP vendor, it would free an purchacheable
token from a vendor for set amount of gold (100g for sake of an
argument)
5 tokens which are the following:
2450 token
2250 token
1750 token
1250 token
1000 token
These are account wide tokens. You mail it to your alt and he walks to a
special vendor which sells current arenaseason gear for tokens + honor;
2450 token and 2450 honor would give you Malevolent weapon of choice
ect...
This vendor would be unlocked after:
-One of your characters have gained over 10000 conquest points during
the season
-After 2 months of season start.
Why honor? Because you'd need to learn and earn your gear on the new
character also.

Ofcourse this should be made unexploitable by having 8 alts and each buying new different piece of gear each week per character, so suddenly you have 9 characters fully geared. But you get my point though.

[Speedymart]

Crawthz, on 20 December 2012 - 05:40 AM, said:

I made a suggestion to similar thread EU forums;

After buying an item from PvP vendor, it would free an purchacheable
token from a vendor for set amount of gold (100g for sake of an
argument)
5 tokens which are the following:
2450 token
2250 token
1750 token
1250 token
1000 token
These are account wide tokens. You mail it to your alt and he walks to a
special vendor which sells current arenaseason gear for tokens + honor;
2450 token and 2450 honor would give you Malevolent weapon of choice
ect...
This vendor would be unlocked after:
-One of your characters have gained over 10000 conquest points during
the season
-After 2 months of season start.
Why honor? Because you'd need to learn and earn your gear on the new
character also.

Ofcourse this should be made unexploitable by having 8 alts and each buying new different piece of gear each week per character, so suddenly you have 9 characters fully geared. But you get my point though.

Sounds cool, but anything that requires XX points in a season can go die.

So sick of having to wait three weeks to even attempt to be viable

[Shadowtiger]

Rith, on 19 December 2012 - 06:50 AM, said:

There needs to be something that allows you to catch up to gear faster. Its so annoying being 3~4 weeks behind in gear and always fighting teams who are way more geared than you. Its even worse when this game completely relies on gear rather than anything else. It totally discourages people from even doing arena who are super behind on gear. I don't even want to join arenas on my alt because I know i'll get 1 shot before a warrior even pops his cooldowns.

Completely agree with this post

Agree with all, in WotLK (mid S6ish?) when i finally got my priest to 80 i managed to get 2,1k+ in 2s in blue crafted pvp set + green/blue lvling items. (with a fully geared rogue mate, but anyway you get my points. Now if you have full blue honor gear as a healer you get globald....) The difference between arena and honor gear is too big.

[J_DA]

As someone with 7 90's and no alternative other than botting. I wish they'd do most of these things..

Edited by J_DA, 20 December 2012 - 06:21 PM.

[StigmaticAscetic]

this is definately a problem, but there is slight controversy with removing pvp power from set and off pieces because this would force PvE players to do PvP to get PvE gear which doesnt make sense. Its like blizzard used to force pvp players to do pve, or like they are forcing everyone to do RBGs right now for decent cap..

[Laquisha]

need honor weapons or at least crafted ones with pvp power to overcome the huge damage gap when starting out on alts

[Justwoo]

more ppl need to q on tr , everyone will have full gear